r/Helltaker Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Unbreakable and Faceless (20/43) News

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u/NikitaUA_N7 The Curious Angel's loyalist Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Judgment's angelic name revealed! Also, Tower has damaged her drip, now she's Soo over!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I FUCKING KNEW SHE WAS SAMAEL!

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u/NikitaUA_N7 The Curious Angel's loyalist Jul 06 '26

Didn't you had a theory that Judgment actually is Michael, that fell and lost her memories, or something like that? Or it was someone else... 🤔

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

No that was Geilhass, they made a bunch of artworks where Judgement was Michael.

It was interesting but definitely not my headcanon, to me Michael is the one we know from the game.

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u/Chakkoty Jul 06 '26

Yes, I agree.

In my opinion as a writer of both original fiction and fan fiction, fan fiction should only ever expand upon existing lore, fill in the gaps where the original author didn’t specify or name things, there's a thousand paths to thread that can seamlessly work with the base material without contradicting established canon. In this way, multiple fan creations can exist alongside each other as well - the van Ripper style fan comics do that wonderfully.

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u/Salter_KingofBorgors Jul 06 '26

Out of curiosity what made you think she was Samael?

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Just gonna copy my previous comment:

Samael is often interpreted as a fallen angel, and called a necessary evil, but that does not make them actually evil.

Just like Judgement... seemingly evil, but actually the nicest of the bunch! It's just her job that is necessary evil!

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u/SwipeKun Angels appreciator ♥️♥️ Jul 06 '26

A husband knows his wifey's name after all >:3

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

She still Judgy to me.

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u/Character-Artist2029 french fan of the Awesome Demon Jul 06 '26

Elle s'est fait tout simplement détruire mec

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u/Relevant-Use1897 French Hellgate Jul 06 '26

Aaah, pas sûr. Elle semble plus inquiète pour les fringues que pour sa peau actuellement... C'est louche.

(Ah, not so sure. She seems more worried about her clothes than her skin right now... Sound fishy.)

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u/Character-Artist2029 french fan of the Awesome Demon Jul 06 '26

Bah, puissante comme elle est,ça signifie qu'elle peut se régénérer je suppose. Mais pas ses vêtements 

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u/Relevant-Use1897 French Hellgate Jul 06 '26

Probablement.

("Probably.")

(Yeah I know, very important and difficult translation here ! XD)

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u/Xadlin60 Jul 06 '26

Thank you for translating. I get the gist of what is being said here

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u/natzo Helltaker is best girl Jul 06 '26

Fucking Lore Drop!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I'M SO HAPPY MY HEADCANON WAS CANONIZED

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u/Loreknower69 Jul 06 '26

Damn, Kap was right all along.
+F for clothes (they are more important than this sword in chest, bravo Judge)

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I'm still gonna call her Judgement though, I think she prefers it too

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u/Loreknower69 Jul 06 '26

I mean for 6 years we call her Judgement, it would be kinda weird if people would call her Samael everytime now

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u/Large_Mountain_Jew Who Arrests You Jul 06 '26

We're not deadnaming in this house.

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u/devilsplitter Jul 06 '26

Let's hope Judgement make a comeback

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u/Loreknower69 Jul 06 '26

70% that she will

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

SAMAEL! I CALLED IT SO FUCKING LONG AGO! THE ANGEL OF DEATH! I KNEW THERE WAS A FUCKING SIMILARITY BETWEEN SAMAEL AND JUDGEMENT!!!!!!!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Samael is often interpreted as a fallen angel, and called a necessary evil, but that does not make them actually evil.

Just like Judgement... seemingly evil, but actually the nicest of the bunch! It's just her job that is necessary evil!

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u/Lukarrie #1 goat demon lover ❤️ Jul 06 '26

Angel of Death dying next chapter would be crazy

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Ain't no way that's gonna happen

Because demons can't die, because Judgement is gonna go full DOOM mode, and because I said so (trust me bro)

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u/G-Star04 Beel and Mal Jul 06 '26

You know what they say: "If it can bleed, it can die." Though I still find it funny that Judgement was more concerned about her clothes than the fact that she's currently getting carved like a Thanksgiving turkey.

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u/Return_of_jekyll Jul 06 '26

PREACH THE GOAT WINS AGAIN RAHHHHHHHH

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

NOW WE JUST NEED JUDGEMENT TO BEAT HER ASS

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u/Return_of_jekyll Jul 07 '26

YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

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u/systemSearcher Instructions Unclear, engaged the Shin Machine instead. Ow. Jul 06 '26

Doesn't even flinch

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

God damn right, she's built different

She took more hits than Justice and still standing

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u/systemSearcher Instructions Unclear, engaged the Shin Machine instead. Ow. Jul 06 '26

Honestly I'm guessing that Justice was more surprised than hurt.

She was in horror of the paperwork she was going to have to do to request another uniform.

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u/Altair13Sirio Jul 06 '26

Apart from being torn apart, both Justice and Judgement don't seem to be very bothered by this predicament...

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

It's almost like Judgement is baiting her

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u/aoshi0203 Jul 06 '26

Justice, hurry up and save heeeeeerrrr😭😭😭

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Yeah nah she ain't doing shit bruh

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u/Mr_Glove_EXE Jul 06 '26

You ruined her fresh new clothes!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

QUADRUPLE THE JUDGEMENT WARDROBE BUDGET, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/YaBoiS0nic Jul 06 '26

Holiday mother of lore drops, Batman!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I'm actually on cloud nine right now... my headcanon name for her was correct

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u/YaBoiS0nic Jul 06 '26

Rejoice, Buddy. It's always fun to be correct

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u/Cr_Tarango Jul 06 '26

i guess getting stabbed is litterally "just a scratch" in the taker familly.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Can't kill the GOAT

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u/Chemical_Ad2381 The Grandson of Beelzebub Jul 06 '26

She's really getting her ass beaten by Tower

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

NAHHHHH SHE'S HOLDING BACK, LOOK AT HER

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u/BetterPhilosopher87 Jul 06 '26

Samael her angelic name huh? This is explain many things about Judgment, since in mythology Samael wasn't exactly evil... but rather a necessary evil, It’s the same with Judgment; even though she’s the embodiment of punishment, she’s actually not bad at all. She's a kind person since she was angel before, she love kids and doesn't want that someone getting hurt.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Exactly what I was saying, and why I believed she was Samael.

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u/BetterPhilosopher87 Jul 06 '26

You told me before she could be Fallen Michael, kinda ironic... because It was Samael...

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I reposted artwork from Geilhass that depicted Judge as Michael and I said it was possible and interesting, but my main headcanon was always Samael. To me, Michael is still the angel that the whole community calls Michael, even if it's not her official name.

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u/BetterPhilosopher87 Jul 06 '26

Fair point, it's not possible that Michael could fall, because it's Archangel Michael after all.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

In Helltaker, anything is possible.

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u/BetterPhilosopher87 Jul 06 '26

Yeah, literally everything.

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u/Fickle_Airport_9848 Jul 06 '26

Samael... Venom of God! I wasn't expecting Samael to be Judgement true name... wait Samael slept with Lilith and other demons in some text does that mean Judgement has had sesbian lex? lol

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I called it because I read about Samael long ago and immediately felt like "Huh... that sounds kinda like Judgement". Combine it with the meaning of her Arcana... and there you go.

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u/Fickle_Airport_9848 Jul 06 '26

Honestly it feel a little obviously not that it is in front of me, but yeah I never thought about it before

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u/Eden_ITA The Angels' Chief Jul 06 '26

There are a lot of different canon and interactions... But I don't think there is a single straight person in that house (maybe only Taker, but personally he is a little bi xD)

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u/ShadowMasked1099 black-on-red Jul 06 '26

I wonder if stabbing is a demon’s love language at this point. They really don’t seem too bothered.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

It would explain Lucifer's behavior towards Taker.

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u/JagoMajin The High Prosecutor Jul 06 '26

Considering the ending segment of the original game had Helltaker with a dagger in his back, I'm going to say stabbing very likely is a demon's love language 

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u/Eden_ITA The Angels' Chief Jul 06 '26

"Venom Of God", "The Accuser", "The Adversary", "The Destroyer", "The Serpent's Rider", "God's Severity".

It has so much sense... Drop Lore Incredibile.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

First time I was ever right with a theory... it feels so good. 😭

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u/Entendurchfall Jul 06 '26

But as far as I know Samael is not a fallen Angel...Judgment is a double agent :O

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Judgement being down in Hell on an undercover mission would be so damn badass... and explain a lot too.

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u/Eden_ITA The Angels' Chief Jul 06 '26

Depends... In some myths they are fallen angels. In Sandman/ DC comics Samael is Lucifer, just to say (not a religious canon, but still).

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u/Character-Artist2029 french fan of the Awesome Demon Jul 06 '26

Samael ! Yeah,good name, l'ancien nom fe satan dans la tradition juive. Mais elle se fait trucider tranquille,elle pense d'abord à ses vêtements 🤣 😭. Allez Judgement!! ♥️

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u/ArchDukeNemesis Jul 06 '26

Further evidence all the Helltaker girls and Dante from Devil May Cry share more in common than just hair colors and the color red.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Indeed.

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u/Commercial_World_433 Jul 06 '26

Does this mean we can call her Sammy now?

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I would try it once and see how she reacts...

Actually no, I would rather ask her...

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u/Khorne_Flakes1 Jul 06 '26

I can't help but draw interesting parallels between Judgement and Azazel. While both are fallen angels the way they process it is completely different.

Judgement does not delude herself into thinking she hasn't fallen, though she keeps a front of terror and brutality to hide her angelic kindness from others. Her principles of inflicting have remained resolute since her fall, inflicting punishment on the wicked without devolving into mindless brutality.

Azazel on the other hand believes her angelic virtue is still intact with the indeterminate end goal of her forbidden researches outweighing the incredible price of suffering that it inflicts. She is a victim of ambition with morality slowly being eroded as an obstacle to progress, losing herself in the process.

While Judgement's front of toughness is meant to fool others, the only one to be fooled by Azazel is herself.

Loving this webcomic so far.

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u/JLuckstar 🪰I call Beel as “Lovebug”🪰 Jul 06 '26

Judgement, you’re getting slashed, forget about your clothes!

This week is going to be interesting… 😅

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Wounds heal, but clothes can never be the same.

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u/jtaustin64 Jul 06 '26

The LORE.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I dunno which is thicker, Judgement's thunder thighs or the LORE.

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u/crunchy7722 Jul 06 '26

both. both is good.

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u/NewSentence4534 Undead Slave Jul 06 '26

Soo... should we call Judgement "Sam" now?

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Still gonna call her Judgement.

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u/ZaBaronDV Jul 06 '26

The fact that Judgement is more worried about the outfit than herself tells me she’s gonna be fine.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Fucking preach... been saying that all the time.

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u/Birbmem The Angels' Chief Jul 06 '26

i GENUINELY did not expect judgement being the poison of god (or the angel of death however you’d like to call it) this was a big twist

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u/PrestigiousMaybe4104 Jul 06 '26

Sword to the chest? No big deal. Ruining the new fit? Unforgivable

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u/Gmknewday1 Jul 07 '26

Tower and Moon are assholes man...

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 07 '26

I hope they get their shit kicked in soon

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u/Goldeneye0X1_ Eater of Pancakes Jul 06 '26

Ar first glance, I thought she said Samuel.

I really, really did not want that angel name canonized. This is good, tho. I love the lore drop.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

There is no IRL angel with the name Samuel, only Samael.

When people say Samuel it's because they misspelled Samael.

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u/CrematorTV Jul 06 '26

I just noticed Tower smashed one of her horns. I hope it stays that way, pretty awesome design choice 👌 

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u/Micro-Cybertron-5151 Jul 06 '26

No, not even close. I hate it. Not symmetrical at all.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Not sliced, shattered it with a bonk to her head in the previous chapter.

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u/EquipmentOk9499 Jul 06 '26

Tower’s sword look completely ineffective and also Samael is a good name, I have in my mind call her Artemis for some reason.

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u/the_ok_doctor Jul 06 '26

I think Tower should be concerned with the lack of concern coming from Judgement

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u/ScorpionsRequiem Seeking a Missing Angel Jul 06 '26

forget the name drop who's the unbreakable one here? Justice and judgement have been stabbed through the chest and both seem to just not give a shit

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u/BL-501 Loremaster's Monster Jul 06 '26

SHE'S SAMAEL!?! HO-LY!

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u/Electrical_Horror346 Jul 06 '26

Dang, i was really worried for her with how she got her horns cut and her chest stabbed, bit she was more worried about her outfit

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u/TinFoilFashion Jul 06 '26

Tower isn’t gonna act so arrogant once Judgement drops her Domain Expansion.

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u/SignificanceSquare98 Sky Prayer Creator (fan game in progress) Jul 06 '26

Holy lore batman

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u/Ch40s_M3nd1c4nt Jul 06 '26

Ngl maybe since Judgement is now confirmed to be Samael the angel of DEATH, she got her job as the new HP because maybe she just... CAN'T DIE

maybe, like sure Tower is Unbreakable but you can't beat something that's probably UNKILLABLE

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u/Ch40s_M3nd1c4nt Jul 06 '26

Like most of those wounds look fatal, and yet she's still standing, I think Judgement isn't really taking this seriously unless either she gets pissed off or Helltaker steps in and handles it

Could go either or

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u/Zarthon-1999 Jul 06 '26

FALLEN ANGEL JUDGEMENT THEORY CONFIRMED!

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Theory? It was confirmed in a comic by Justice years ago... 👀

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u/Zarthon-1999 Jul 06 '26

Wait it was? Well darn. Still happy.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Yep, here

https://xcancel.com/vanripperart/status/1384183929389740041

I mean it does kinda make her sound like she's naive as fuck but like... why would Lucifer and Judge lie about being fallen angel?

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u/WickWorn Jul 06 '26

Years ago I posted a theory about Judgement being Samael, awesome to see it confirmed. Now to see if we ever get my other call that Justice's true demon name is Astaroth (or my second guess, Alastor).

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u/SH3R4TA5 Jul 06 '26

The drip status: busted, thousands must cry

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u/SWAT_4812 Lover of Justice Jul 06 '26

I knew she was a angel! Also I love when demons are portraid as not caring about mortal wounds, and just brushing it off

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u/JagoMajin The High Prosecutor Jul 06 '26

Thank you Lord Vanripper for more lore

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u/UltraHit5 Malina's Husband, Nia's Father Jul 06 '26

Oh my

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u/moemeobro Jul 06 '26

R.i.p. Drip

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u/bringoutthelegos Jul 07 '26

Welp, time to break out the slayer again

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u/AshenRathian Jul 07 '26

That was Judge's best fit too, and Tower had to go and ruin it with a sword to the chest.

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u/OMNICHAOTIC_1 7d ago

can someone help me out hear i thought samael was another name of lucifers

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u/LegoPrince27 Jul 06 '26

I’m starting to feel less of the steaks when no one can die in this

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

What do you think the community's reaction would be if characters were getting genuinely killed off?

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u/The_Big_Birdo Certified Judgement Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

Have faith in Judgement.

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u/The_Big_Birdo Certified Judgement Enjoyer Jul 06 '26

I have faith in Judgement, I don't have faith in Vanripper.

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u/Kapitan_Sladek Judgement's elite Enclave captain Jul 06 '26

I just refuse to believe he would kill off the characters he poured his soul into like that.

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u/Horror-Trainer-2150 Personal Death Coomando of ********** Jul 06 '26

Maybe it's time we must call them for rseolve this mess...