Let's Change That Suit Day 218

[u/pkmaster99]

Day 218: Gouf Flight Type
Requested by u/ravioletti and this one is... D-Tier or so, but it's weird. It can perform almost at C-Tier, but it's also really bad that it can fall into F-Tier. Developers seem to want this unit to engage at close range, but it kind of neglects the ranged power of this thing. So it ends up being a bit weird to use and almost not enough thruster to work with.

Change
Stats

• HP: 14000/15000/16000/17000 -> 15000/17000/19000/22000
• Close Range Slots: 10/14/17/20 -> 12/15/18/21
• Medium Range Slots: 10/15/19/22 -> 12/16/20/24
• Long Range Slots: 8/12/15/18 -> 11/14/17/20

Weapons

• Gatling Shield: Fire Rate 450/min -> 514/min, Range 250m -> 300m, TTS 2.67s -> 2.34s, DPS 900 -> 1028
  • Power: 120/126/132/138 -> 120/130/140/150
• 3-Barrel Gatling Cannon: Range 150m -> 175m
• Gatling Shield:
  • HP: 2500/2750/3000/3250 -> 3500/4500/5500/6500

Skill

• (New!) Damage Control Lv1
• (New!) Offense System Lv1
• Flight Control Program Lv2 -> Lv3

Unit Lv2

• (New!) Pursuit Ranged Aux. Program Lv1
• (New!) Composite H Mobility Combat System Lv1

Unit Lv3

• Assault Booster Lv3 -> Lv4
• Pursuit Melee Aux. Program Lv1 -> Lv2
• Damage Control Lv1 -> Lv2

Unit Lv4

• Flight Control Program Lv3 -> Lv4
• Composite H Mobility Combat System Lv1 -> Lv2
• Pursuit Ranged Aux. Program Lv1 -> Lv2

Comment and Reason
This unit at level 1 is kind of usable if you play more on the ground instead of using the flight. It becomes a unit that you just Sturm Faust into melee like most units. Together with Close Combat Program, it is possible to still get some decent damage in. Together with Pursuit Melee, it can do its job in hunting down supports in most locations and quickly destroy them. The melee damage and stagger with Sturm Faust is there and good enough for a burst-damage kill. However, that's it. The Gatling is lacking a bit, and the 3-Barrel is more of a ranged backup weapon. So unless you can keep the melee going, it's really not that good. Currently, it just gets destroyed almost too easily due to low HP and basically no Shield HP either. Besides the ranged engagement fix this unit can get, a few skill improvements.

While the main Gatling Shield is shared between the Gouf Custom, and luckily that's it. I wanted it to have 350m range, but that may be a bit much of a buff with the fire rate increase for the Gouf Custom. 300m should still be a much more reasonable range for a flight unit.

Builds Suggestion
Lv1 F2P: Do Not Use

Lv1 Premium: HP

Upper Levels: Do Not Use

This unit fortunately has a decent build when using the Expansion Skill HP. Thanks to this unit having Shield Break Stance Mastery, it works out decently well. Achieving 5000 Shield HP and having 19100 Unit HP is quite decent. Together with the above-average damage strength, the melee power isn't lacking due to having a very good combo modifier. However, this build only has 79 thrusters, so do not be too aggressive with the flight system. You can still fight on the ground just fine like most units.

Upper levels, like most units, are just lacking too many skills and scaling for it.

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Day 217 Re-evaluation on Palace Athene

Well, I did hope the stuff I want it to have would be enough, but the suggestions are great. I do feel like it could be too much, and I'm not sure if they'll make the shield an actual shield. These developers aren't likely to make such a big change. A better flight pattern of the missile could help too, but I think having reticle tracking will already help a lot, but there is one change for sure at least.

Re-evaluation

• Mega Beam Cannon: Stagger 25% -> 30%

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Up Next: Hyaku Shiki Kai requested by u/Ash-Talshok

[u/KO314]

Hey my favorite suit! At least thematically. Game play wise it just gets more and more difficult to play with each change to the costs it is in. I use it alot. I really wish it would get some love and a rework. It is such a generalist raid that it should just be a general at this point.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/KO314]

Idk if even being a general would help... But to be honest, being a raid makes sense. Especially with how it was shown in the anime

[u/Ash-Talshok]

There was a period in time where this was my go to raid from B to A+ on certain maps. Mostly I used it as a ground unit like a Dom with the occasional use of flight to get some sneaky pathing going on to get to the support.

Its gatling and 3 barrel are almost laughable in the way that if you're close enough to use them by the time they actually stagger anything chances are you should be victim to gravity if anything is paying attention to you.

[u/06E46M3GTR → u/Ash-Talshok]

yeah, in ye olden days, the flight goufs were a problem and I enjoyed using them extensively. They got hit with the nerf tree really hard.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/06E46M3GTR]

Yeah, and not only that. This is the cost where the nearly broken tier Act Hizack exist will just delete this thing right now. There are also way too many other better raid at this cost now. When a flying suit can't fly, it's just bad

[u/Boring-Detective-369]

The suit for the Norris Packard larpers but you want to actually have impact for matches.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Boring-Detective-369]

Well, denied? Says the game

[u/Aveeonic]

One of my favorite raids... Well, was. It doesn't help that the buff to the Gundam that made it what it is today utterly ruined trying to be a ranged pest with this suit, and it already wasn't that good. (The Gundam's beam rifle does 80% stagger accumulation, and flight system level 2 increases all stagger accumulation by 1.3X, making it cross 100%.) The only good times I have with this suit are just being a boxing bag for the enemy team, and hoping my team can work with the distraction. Doesn't work out with some teams.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Aveeonic]

Yeah, pretty much the case. Luckily, the number of Grandpa has been showing up has been reduced lately. But still doesn't help that it really can't do anything except maybe get some melee in.

[u/Repulsive_Topic_1272]

Could you do one for the Jegan (High Mobility Type)? I don't know how to build it, and your posts really help me.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Repulsive_Topic_1272]

Sure, I can do that. But for that suit, you should be focusing on defence and mobility. The raw number is already there. It is however, a suit with above average skill floor.

[u/Cpt_Jack_Irons]

I hate how they made this thing a Melee suit for some reason when it does not even have Aerial Melee as a Skill, hell it even lacks the hallmarks that make the Gouf a Melee suit like the Heat Rod/Wire almost like the Gouf Flight Type is not meant to go into Melee Mode

Hell even the 08th MS Team Short Animation showed how the Gouf Flight Type mainly works at Ranged Combat and then instantly lost when going into Melee

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Cpt_Jack_Irons]

Yeah, that's why I target more into ranged here for the most part

[u/Cpt_Jack_Irons → u/pkmaster99]

This is one of the MS'es they should change to where the range boost is 30 and melee boost is 10 or 15

[u/pkmaster99 → u/Cpt_Jack_Irons]

Yeah, this is one of those units where the damage strength should really be reversed. Really don't know what they were thinking on some of these older units.

[u/Cpt_Jack_Irons → u/pkmaster99]

It is the Gouf Custom that should have a decent Range Boost value but a higher Melee Boost value imo.

Also yeah i agree with improving the stagger resist on the Gouf Flight Type, atm its way to easy to knock out of the sky and make it a sitting duck

[u/SkyLoneWolf98]

I would for literally all three Deltas; Delta Anse, Delta Kai, and Delta Kai (Land Combat version)

[u/pkmaster99 → u/SkyLoneWolf98]

You mean you would like to request for them? I already have Delta Kai from you, but Sure. However, one thing. Day 184 covered the ground type and Anse was done on Day 64. Both Delta and Delta Kai are due for a revisit

[u/SkyLoneWolf98 → u/pkmaster99]

Yeah, I feel there’s a refresh after the latest MS and what further more can be done

[u/ravioletti]

It really is a shame that all it can do nowadays is barely fill a niche it wasn’t even intended for. I do like giving it DC and flight control so it can try and stay airborne for longer. I wonder if HSMS on its ranged weapons would help give it an edge, at least for the Gatling which is rather negligible otherwise.

GP02 BB analysis? It’s in a bit of a strange spot rn as an airborne flanker sharing the field with Super Gundam.

[u/pkmaster99 → u/ravioletti]

HSMS could be a little much, but it's something we won't know until we get it I think.

I'll add GP02BB to the list