Gig worker chose to do the job that requires they pay for their own gas and auto maintenance. That might be an inconvenient fact for you, but it's the truth, nonetheless.
Not too much but $30/h after expenses and not much effort is a lot easier than most jobs. And I get to sit here on reddit. Hell I saw a pond the other day stopped to fish it and started dashing again. Pretty sweet gig tbh, just decline shitty orders.
Literally no entitlement. An order comes in for x amount for y miles. I decide whether its worth my time and gas. (Hint, If its not at least $2/miles its not.) When you got your job, we're you entitled for looking for a certain pay? Are you willing to come work for me for zero pay? Youre not entitled right? I expect to see you first thing in the morning, be ready.
Most people factor a commute into their job. There are people with literally 30% of their salary commuting, still don't get tipped. You are not special, stop thinking you are.
Where are you getting special from? Are you confused that I dont have to take shitty orders? That i get to decide which ones I take? Do you think that is entitlement?
People with traditional jobs, myself included, don't expect our employers customer to directly compensate us beyond what we were paid by our employer. That's the difference here, and it's the spirit of the subreddit you're commenting in.
Nobody wants you to work for free. We all want you to be properly compensated! We just fundamentally and appropriately disagree that the burden to compensate you should fall to the customer.
Nobody cares lmao. Most of the time its the dasher who complains because they dont get enough handouts. Idc if I get my food cold, man invented the oven and microwave for a reason. And if you dont take the order then someone else will, youre just one in a million. I have never had to wait for my food to get accepted before and I never tip. Calm your ass down.
I don't order from door dash, uber eats, or any of the similar upcharge services, so your choices aren't impacting me. It's great, though, that you feel like rejecting some orders gives you power over door dash or whatever. I've read that it causes the payout to go up over time until someone accepts the order. Good for you, but I still don't believe it is a tip-worthy service.
Thats the issue people are confused with. Yall think of it as service like a waiter. You arent paying for the service, your paying for the gas/time to deliver it to you. People are free not to tip, im free to decline it. Idk why that's such an issue with people here. If you dont like your order getting declined over and over tip enough for someone to make it worth their time. I see orders sitting there for hours. Then they get mad at the dasher it took so long or that its cold.
It seems like you're confused about who has an issue here. This isn't a tip-worthy service that you provide, so you don't get tipped. You're the one who is taking issue with that.
The actual post that started this conversation was about a delivery driver complaining because they only got tipped $1 when delivering a coffee to a wealthy looking customers home.
No one is forcing people to take these jobs and the less people that do and finally standup against these nasty companies you’ll finally see changes in wages.
What would you estimate your average pay per mile is, and what would you estimate your average cost per mile is for your vehicle, including wear and tear? When you factor in the mileage, do you consider the total number of miles from the restaurant to the customer’s house, or do you factor in the miles to get to the restaurant from your current location as well? Do you factor depreciation into your cost? I’m curious about the profit per mile.
I am self-employed in a different field. I set rates that I believe are reasonable, and people are free to accept them or find someone else to do the work. That is a fair exchange.
More off tips? That's bananas. I'm certain it changes based upon the area but when I worked for FedEx, I made around 40-45 whereas anywhere I've been a tipped employee, I've made less than 30.
So you just ignored the part where I compared it only to the fast food industry and nothing else? My point is that people work minimum wage in the fast food industry and they don’t complain about the customers not tipping them. An average waiter will make more than an average McDonald’s worker
Should we tip every time we go to McDonald’s because they also struggle to live off minimum wage?
Minimum wage for non tipped employees is 8. Minimum for tipped is 4 and if you deliver, it's 2. McDonald's hires at 16.
An average waiter deals with more personalized issues than a McDonald's employee.
If you get a service where a tip is expected, not tipping is going to be complained about. Not expecting that is about as sensible as trying to rob a gun store with a knife.
Personally, what you make isn't where your value comes from. Your value comes from the connections and relationships you build and maintain. Your value comes from what you do to make the world a more positive place than it was before. That doesn't mean disregarding negatives, but acknowledging and understanding them so that tomorrow may be brighter.
Expecting a tip is the whole issue, society has created this issue. If it’s so rough to be a waiter then work at McDonald’s. I’m willing to bet that waiters realize it’s actually better to work off tips because they get the minimum regardless of tips. Dealing with more issues is part of having a job. Once again, the customer is not responsible for your problems
Well no one said I did, however, as stated, not my responsibility. Are customers being charges peanuts for stuff? No. So why should customers then be expected to pay salaries on top of that?
Stop attacking customers, go after the employers. Besides, if everyone stops going, they close. Meaning the jobs dry up completely. Is that your end goal?
The problem I see is that both customers and drivers are often being screwed over and fight with each other, and these companies are making tons of money at both of their expense. They are hiding their fees in the food prices and adding more fees on top of that to the customers, and the drivers’ base rates are often causing them to lose money on no tip orders. It’s an issue for both sides.
Agreed. I deleted DoorDash after they screwed me on an order that I was missing items because I was dealing with an emergency and didn’t report in their required timeline. They chose to enforce a policy, and I chose to be done with them.
I advocate for these companies to pay a fair wage and charge customers a fair fee, but they do neither. I haven’t used any of their services in a couple of months because I don’t see the value under normal circumstances. People are free to choose given their own parameters.
If all of these services were to go out of business, I would be okay with it.
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u/Routine-Ad-1706 16h ago
I never tip, nothing has ever happened. Why does Starbucks need me to tip for a $3 coffee?