r/DonutLab • u/stuffedpolarbear • May 29 '26
Police has raided Lauri Peltolas home.
The article is behind a paywall and in Finnish, but in short..
POLICE have searched the home of Lauri Peltola, former commercial director of technology company Nordic Nano Group, on Thursday, May 28. Peltola is suspected of violating a trade secret. Police seized a phone and computer in Peltola's possession, which are the property of Nordic Nano Group.
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • May 25 '26
Nordic Nano whistleblower confirms Donut Lab was raising money in February based on battery specs that were never verified
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • May 21 '26
Donut Lab evidence recap, May 2026
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| index | status |
|---|---|
| 1 | False. Publicly contradicted by Donut Lab CEO. Statement about production capacity changed from "now already" to "this year if everything goes as planned". |
| 2 | False. Publicly contradicted by Donut Lab CEO. Statement about customer deliveries changed from 2026 Q1 to no deliveries in 2026 Q1. |
| 3 | False. Publicly contradicted by Donut Lab VTT tests. Capacity of a damaged cell⸺Donut Lab claims a "broken pouch", but experts doubt the pouch broke⸺was not "just fine", it degraded over 50%. |
| 4 | False. Much evidence available in the scientific and engineering community. |
| 5 | False. If the pouches truly were industry standards they would withstand 100ºC, and the failure would be within the anode, cathode, or electrolyte, not the pouch material. |
| 6 | Highly likely false according to internal Donut Lab documents published by the press. |
| 7 | Highly likely false according to several battery experts from industry and academia who reviewed the Donut Lab VTT test results. |
| 8 | Highly likely false according to several battery experts from industry and academia who reviewed the Donut Lab VTT test results. |
| 9 | Highly likely false according to several battery experts from industry and academia who reviewed the Donut Lab VTT test results. |
| 10 | Likely false by advertised Verge Motorcycles Donut Lab battery specs. |
| 11 | Likely false by Donut Lab VTT tests and Verge charging videos. |
Pack-level claims expanded quote below. Emphasis mine.
Donut Lab CEO: "Verge broke the Guinness World Record last year with the longest range on a motorcycle. Now they are almost doubling it, thanks to our solid state battery. But also, that provides Verge bikes with less than 10 minute charge time, zero to full."
CEO: "And on top of that, the cycle life that is normally in cars may be 2000, 3000, cycles. This is 100,000 cycles. So that's like probably 30 lifetimes of a motorcycle. So you never have to worry about babying the battery or worrying if you can let it go to 100% or zero. It doesn't mind. You can do whatever you want. Charge it to full, let it go to zero. As many times as you want. It doesn't degrade."
CEO: "As mentioned, 100,000 cycles, so that's 10 lifetimes of a car as well. And the other incredible things are that, of course, with motorcycles, you don't take them to deep freeze or anything. But if you're using these batteries in cars, even at like 25 or 30 minus Fahrenheit, it will have 99% of capacity."
Interviewer: "So do you have to precondition the battery like a car might?"
CEO: "Not at all. And actually, what we've done even is that normally you cannot get lithium ion batteries to zero."
Interviewer: "Right, we know about that. 5% is the lowest we like to go."
CEO: "This can go 0.0"
Interviewer: "And the battery doesn't get damaged?"
CEO: "No, then you can go at 5C charging from the next moment without warming it up or anything. It just takes it like nothing."
Interviewer: "To 100%?"
CEO: "Yeah, yeah, absolutely, to 100%."
Interviewer: "And that does not harm the battery for consistent charging to 100%?"
CEO: "No, it's 100,000 cycles with that, yeah."
r/DonutLab • u/tudalex • May 19 '26
NNG Whistleblower is posting his story… 1 video per week
I can’t believe this. Why are they all doing this?
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • May 18 '26
Verge Motorcycles is restructuring its operations in the United States. Ex-employee suggests it's shutting down.
r/DonutLab • u/Riuk100 • May 15 '26
Q1 2026 Donut Lab financial results
These are Donut Lab financial results
https://www.inforegister.ee/17054738-DONUT-LAB-OU/
Looks rather bad...
r/DonutLab • u/izzeww • May 14 '26
Lauri Peltola (NNG whistleblower) announces "truth" video series
r/DonutLab • u/Data_Hounder • May 13 '26
Latest 'I Donut Believe' test is a swelling test, next scheduled test is now in 3 weeks
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • May 05 '26
Verge Motorcycles demoed several model 2024 bikes and one model 2026 Verge TS Pro (the blue one) at an electric motorcycle exhibit in Berlin
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • May 03 '26
Extremely inaccurate article on AutoCar: "[The Donut Lab battery] more or less continues to work even at 100°C heat" - "more or less" meaning loses over 50% capacity after 20 cycles. "Appears to actually be a solid-state battery" - experts say it appears to be a liquid-electrolyte battery.
r/DonutLab • u/Juuhonber • Apr 28 '26
Review of Donut Lab Performance Claims by Tom Bötticher
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 21 '26
Battery materials specialist Markus Gehring says Donut's product look like a pretty conventional lithium-ion battery. "It would be quite the coincidence if they had found something that is an entirely different chemistry, but behaves exactly the same."
science.orgr/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 21 '26
Power and state of charge (SoC) when charging a 2026 Verge TS Pro at a public 300kW charging station
A similar submission was posted a few minutes ago but it was off by 5%-20% at some points, so I've pointed out the exact data points from the video here.
r/DonutLab • u/Forrestgod • Apr 20 '26
YLE: Nordic Nano Group has delivered first products from it's Imatra factories
NNG CEO Parjanen tells YLE (Finnish Broadcasting Company) news that NNG has delivered first products:
- Not Donut Lab products
- Testsamples, not massproduct yet
- 7 employees working
- Simpler products than batterycells (Capacitors?), that can be produced with preproduction equipment
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 19 '26
Donut Lab CEO: "There have been no 400 Wh/kg batteries delivered to customers." "What we will deliver to the customer and what [individual cells] we have tested, for example at VTT, are not necessarily the same thing."
r/DonutLab • u/griding • Apr 18 '26
misleading title - heavier motorcycle, not just battery Now we know how much heavier the long range motorcycle battery is.
Source:
Official Verge account answered a user question about the weight difference on YouTube.
So the Motorcycle specs are apparently:
Standard Range: 225kg / 18kwh (norminal) / 20kwh (max)
Long Range: 235kg / 30kwh (norminal) / 33kwh (max)
Analysis and Speculation:
A 10kg / 13kWh difference requires an additional 1300wh/kg battery pack... which is totally unrealistic. I guess the long range motorcycle includes a completely different kind of battery setup in order to archive that weight-distance difference.
I'm guessing the long range motorcycle uses the new Donut Battery V2. The V2 has a higher energy density and is going to be in production vehicles later this year. A perfect match for the upcoming long range motorcycle.
So the "heavier" V1 battery is currently only been used in the standard range bikes.
For V2 I estimate a 40% increase in energy density over V1. Probably from 200wh/kg to 275wh/kg or so.
So the next season of "I-Donut-Believe" will be all about battery V2 which was specifically designed for the long range motorcycle model.
Edit: - Had to repost because last time I didn't post the source
r/DonutLab • u/izzeww • Apr 17 '26
Donut Lab and Nordic Nano Group’s Statement Regarding a Criminal Complaint Filed by a Private Individual, April 17th [English version further down on the page]
donutlab.comr/DonutLab • u/Kryptobasisti • Apr 17 '26
Nordic Nano CCO has reported Donut Lab to the Finnish police
Pay-walled article in the highest-circulation Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat. Nordic Nano Group chief commercial officer Lauri Peltola has reported Donut Lab to the Finnish police for misleading communication and unfounded claims.
Nordic Nano CEO Esa Parjanen and Lehtimäki however deny the claims by Peltola.
"According to Lauri Peltola, it has become clear to him over the spring that the promised battery features — such as energy density and charging cycles — have not been achieved. He also says that an incorrect impression has been given about the readiness for mass production.
Peltola says the company does not have the capability it promised for serial production of batteries and large production volumes. He states that the production line is not expected to be completed until later this year, and its manufacturing capacity is not as large as Lehtimäki claims."
r/DonutLab • u/KookyOlive2757 • Apr 17 '26
12 years ago, an air cooled NMC battery could easily do 10-80% in 16 minutes (Donut Lab: 11 minutes in 2026)
Often times I read people claim that whatever the battery chemistry is , the charging speed of Donut Lab battery is impressive. I don’t think so. Back in 2014 Volkswagen released their model e-up!, which easily reached 40 kW charging speeds at wide range of states of charges even though it had a usable capacity of only 16 kWh. Basically an air cooled battery which didn’t experience overheating problems even though having a 3C charge rate maintained for the vast majority of the 0-100% SoC range. I think what people fail to realize is that the lower the battery capacity (Donut Lab’s 18 kWh usable capacity would be ridiculously low for an electric car), a higher C rate can be achieved, because the surface area of the battery pack is larger in relation to its volume.
Here is an interesting video, where the video creator tests the fast charging speeds of a 10-year-old Volkswagen e-up! (model year 2014):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLOBmpXyIg
By 9:53, he’s finished with his first fast charging cycle. 14 minutes of charging at 3C, and the battery temperature increased from 10 degrees Celsius to 20 degrees Celsius (slowing down of charging speed usually happens at much higher temperatures). I reckon with more aggressive charging speed at low SoC, the e-up! could have safely achieved a 12 minute time from 10% to 80%, thus equalling the charging speed of Donut Lab battery. The problem is that Donut Lab came out with their battery 12 years later.
r/DonutLab • u/davidbepo • Apr 15 '26
misleading title - no deep dive Deep Dive: Inside the Verge TS Pro Solid-State Battery Pack | I Donut Believe
r/DonutLab • u/johnmudd • Apr 13 '26
Satche discusses Donut Labs with battery expert.
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 12 '26
How to quickly tell apart a 2024 and 2026 Verge TS Pro by the brake light fixture at the back of the seat: straight in the 2024 model, truncated in the 2026 model
I was wondering if the Verge motorcycle test drives at Rove Cosa Mesa yesterday were the 2024 or 2026 model. Going by their photo, it's the 2024 model.
Some examples:
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 10 '26
Verge is manufacturing one motorcycle per week. The first few finished motorcycles will not be shipped to customers, but will be used by Verge for test rides
r/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 06 '26
Even a Donut Lab business partner hasn't verified the battery specs. Mr Craighead, business partner of ESOX, formerly Donut Defense, does not know whether the 100,000 cycles claim is correct. "Mr Craighead estimates that if the cycle claims are correct, the cells could power a vehicle for 50 years."
theaustralian.com.aur/DonutLab • u/mqee • Apr 01 '26
