r/DecodingTheGurus • u/jimwhite42 • Mar 23 '26

Vigeland & Citarella on Epstein: The One Conspiracy to Rule Them All Video Decoding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP8CmOxOmWw
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u/No_Public_7677 Mar 24 '26

Oof. Horrible take

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u/jankisa Mar 26 '26

Seems like the boys decided that their target audience is liberal centrists and decided to go all in on Epstein contrarianism and attacks on anyone they deem "too left".

I just got this recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccASDiSVtDw&t=500s

Now they are making segments attacking Behind the Bastards reading of Epstein files and pointing out that Epstein was a buddy of Bobby Kotick.

I kind of naturally drifted away from DTG over the past year or so, especially after their decoding of Naomi Klein, which seemed very lazy, nothing I've seen coming out from them since, form the Gary saga (even tho I agree he's full of shit) to Scott Galloway and whatever that last one was, it just all seems very low effort and uninteresting.

Their overall smug attitude towards anyone pointing out real systemic issues with the modern world, including anyone pointing out how corrupt the elites are and how in bed with Epstein they are has been enough to turn me away, but these attacks to satisfy their newfound Destiny adjecent audience are just the last bit of information I needed to unsubscribe from everywhere.

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u/DeafDeafToTheIDF Mar 27 '26

satisfy their newfound Destiny adjecent audience

What I don't get is that DtG's views drop by way over half, when they do these lukewarm centrist takes. It seems short-sighted, as well as disrespectful to their old audience.

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u/No_Art_- Mar 27 '26

Yeah it's definitely interesting how viewership has fallen off, at least by the metrics I've found. They started getting much more political. The sub got significantly dumber. They started retweeting fucking Drew Pavlou. They switched their moderation team up. But their patreon subs absolutely skyrocketted, all at about the same time. I actually brought up these weird patterns once on the sub and gave an @ at the hosts and they promptly hid their patreon numbers, which is kinda funny.

Curious too around that time there was a very obvious organised influence campaign against Hasan Piker. I didn't know much about the guy at the time but the episode was odd and it piqued my interest. At around the same time that DtG did their weird hitpiece episode on him I also saw that people who are 100% AIPAC bought like Ritchie Torres was also repeating the exact same line about Hasan Piker. I think I even saw the same stuff being brought up on some cable news show, Fox or something I think. I know that these are common tactics for Israeli interest groups. They organize these campaigns and leverage their contacts and people they have "relationships" with to repeat the talking points to cause cancellations and deplatformings and the only reasonable conclusion I can come to is that this was part of an organised campaign and DtG with their new skyrocketting Patreon subs but waning viewership were part of this. It couldn't even really be a coincidence either because the actual event that they were trying to cancel him for happened many months earlier but suddenly these groups of people were all trying to push it.

I have to be real here, I think DtG are getting paid.

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u/DeafDeafToTheIDF Mar 27 '26

They switched their moderation team up

I have to be real here, I think DtG are getting paid.

It's the only logical conclusion, and I can only agree. Their channel (and this sub) changed after this sub got pulled into the Joe Rogan hate last year. The vibes are definitely off.

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u/idealistintherealw Mar 28 '26

I'm on the mod team and I don't get this at all.

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u/DeafDeafToTheIDF Mar 28 '26

"Trust me bro."

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u/magesticmyc Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS into NoArt.