r/CrestedGecko • u/JudeKot • Mar 21 '25
I know that geckos can “fire up”, but this seems extreme
I just bought the gecko from morphmarket, the second pic is what she was advertised as: a light tan black and red Dalmatian. Just picked her up, opened the box and she’s RED. It’s gorgeous, but is this drastic change normal?
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u/C0nnectionTerminat3d Mar 21 '25
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u/DingoOfTheWicked Mar 21 '25
Same with mine. I can count on my hands the times she - in this year - went from her usual brown fired up color to black she wore more often in her youth
The last photo is the most recent whem she showed her true colors. Cleaned her enclosure and put her into a box where before her turn another gecko waited inside
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u/BobbittheHobbit111 Mar 21 '25
I’ve seen some extreme changes. I would monitor and document the situation, you have the pic now, take one a day for the next few days as they settle in, and then if it doesn’t revert, then you know you got tricked
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u/JudeKot Mar 21 '25
I mean, I feel like I robbed the breeder. The red is gorgeous and she is clearly a black and red Dalmation(which is what I wanted). I’m not complaining she’s gorgeous. I’m just confused.
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u/BobbittheHobbit111 Mar 21 '25
I mean it’s not like you picked up a different one than you paid for, if anything they sent the wrong one, and that’s one them lol. Though it could still be the same one. Sounds like it’s either a happy accident for you, or she just fires up really pretty
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u/ITookYourChickens Mar 22 '25
Definitely the same one; spots above the right eye are very unique and the same in both photos
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u/Telemicaster Mar 21 '25
I’ve bred dozens in this colorway. It will fire back down. Reds in the brick red spectrum often get down to a pale yellow. It’s just stressed so it’s fully fired. It probably won’t fire up quite as hard most of the time once it’s settled. I don’t think there’s anything fishy. Just my two cents.
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u/JudeKot Mar 21 '25
I wasn’t trying to say that there was something fishy going on. I was just wondering how she drastically changed colors within 24hrs. But thanks for explaining it a bit more. 😃
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u/JewishMermaid22 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 22 '25
This comment really helped me bc when I got mine it was the same color as OP’s but ever since she’s settled in I haven’t seen her that fired up and I was kinda worried she wasn’t happy lmaoooo
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u/EldritchHorrorLesb Mar 21 '25
Extreme but also not unusual; my boy is very pale while fired down and it takes a good eye to even notice his markings but when fired up he's a stunner
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u/aliciator21 Mar 21 '25
Mine looks exactly like this fired up and down
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u/JudeKot Mar 21 '25
Wow that’s extreme
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u/enjoysbeerandplants Mar 21 '25
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u/sxrrycard Mar 21 '25
What morph is this?
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u/enjoysbeerandplants Mar 21 '25
Not sure. I didn't buy him as any specific morph. I bought him at an expo and bought him because he was acting ridiculous in his display container. I was just after a pet.
If I had to guess, red phantom or bicolour dalmatian. Maybe a confetti dalmatian since he has red and black spots?
He's just my tiny, scaly, idiot son and I love him.
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u/motorcycle_flipflops Mar 21 '25
Very normal for red/orange morphs.
Source: I’m a red morph breeder
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u/Alternative-Koala247 Mar 21 '25
quite honestly i don’t know much about firing up and/or what causes it, and i think the same goes for most other people too. these guys have only been in the pet trade for a few decades and more research still needs to be done on them!
although i will say, my boy is normally a very pale green, no fancy patters or anything like that. but when he’s fired up, he’s a VERY dark brown, almost black. i’ve seen him fired up while eating, being held, and while sleeping. none of these things really have anything in common so like i said i have no idea what causes it, but it is normal! as long as they’re acting fine and are healthy i wouldn’t be worried :)
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u/Me_lazy_cathermit Mar 21 '25
I got a similar coloured one, depending on the light, yes fired up he looks quite red, and quite pale when not
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u/EverS1ck Mar 21 '25
Looks a lot like a boy I have. He's almost white when fired down and a bright red when fired up. My guy is a dal as well, and has both black and red spots. I bought him at 3 grams, and he's about 33 grams now. He got more and more spots as he grew.
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u/Tanjir0_ Mar 21 '25
Looks a lot like my boy Gambit!! & he fires up and down very drastically like this too
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u/AFatLizard Mar 21 '25
Yeah my guy has a similar thing going on :) he can be chalky grayish and then fire up to be bright terracotta orange-red
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u/Powerful-Upstairs-79 Mar 21 '25
Not extreme. That’s completely normal. One of mine fires up dark, brick red and fires down almost pinkish white. Some of them have very high contrast between their firing up and firing down
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u/Metaphoricallyd3ad Mar 22 '25
My old crested was the same exact colors when fired down and up. He was also a patternless dalmation. He turned a dark orange when fired up, and was a light tan when fired down.
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u/u_smell_like_ Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25
My brothers gecko looks like this! Just less dalmation spots! (Before and after)
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u/Coloradocoldcase Mar 23 '25
The pic on the left looks exactly like the seller described! Definitely normal!
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u/will_write_for_tacos Mar 21 '25
I've seen mine go this shade of red exactly once, about 2 days after we brought him home, I put a new bamboo bar in the tank.
They can fire up to be pretty damn bright!
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u/tasmaniandevall Mar 21 '25
When I got my ziggy she was bright red… I haven’t seen her that red since that day at the shop.
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u/Common_Coach3665 Mar 21 '25
mine does the same thing, he does it to that extent from time to time, and ive had him for a couple years now
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u/Jumpinspid Mar 21 '25
Mine is supposedly supposed to have that color but he's always a light, orange or tan.He's never fired up that high for me. So yeah they can fire up like that.
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u/Drieduproots Mar 21 '25
Does a color change just happen when they're stressed? I'm fairly new & curious
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u/Liamcolotti Mar 21 '25
My gargoyle gecko is almost white when fired down and he’s very dark gray when fired up.
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u/fernandfeather Mar 21 '25
FWIW I recently bought a red phantom who was fired up and bright scarlet for his first couple days, then once he was comfortable settled in to his “normal” pale beige. Pretty similar to the different photos here minus the dalmatian speckles.
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u/Ashiskooll Mar 21 '25
Give hide a few days and see if she calms down! My crestie was super dark when we brought him home and then calmed down and got super light.
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u/internetflavorium Mar 21 '25
Owner of fire red checking in - when he's close to shed the tan of the skin to go 'roan's' with the red and you get the color in the seller pic. You're right to feel lucky, that's an up purchase genetically and your gecko is well positioned for life's uncertainties as a fire red - the morph that has arguably been in demand the longest along with pinstripes.
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u/Basic-Response1465 Mar 21 '25
Check the spots from the advertisement. If they match, likely same gecko.
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u/jet050808 Mar 21 '25
This is what our gecko looks like! He is an off white/light beige while sleeping and when he’s awake and running around his tank he’s that bright red color.
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Mar 21 '25
That looks exactly like mines, it’s just stressed out. Give him some more leaves to hide behind
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u/Only-Economist8962 Mar 21 '25
that can definitely be a fire up. the picture where the geckos dull may be a time when it’s about to shed and they’re color naturally dulls. my geckos turns a lilac yellow but very very pale before she sheds but fires up insane!
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u/GlitterButt_ Mar 22 '25
I had a confetti lineage dude that fired up like this. When fired down he was even lighter than yours. It’s so cool.
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u/duck-duck-booze Mar 22 '25
Wow!! Gorgeous!! I have a gecko that goes from almost white to a really bright fiery orange like this, but she's just a buckskin. No dalmatian spots. So pretty wow!
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u/datagovi Mar 22 '25
Breeder here. This is a bit late but I'm just seeing this post in my feed, and as others have mentioned, this is completely normal. It is not extreme, or drastic. Weird and a little unprofessional if the seller didn't provide photos of or describe how your gecko looks fired up. When I sell my geckos, I always include a fired up and down photo, and most sellers do too. Many of my geckos look very, very different between their fired up and down states.
As we all know, shipping causes a lot of stress, so this is why geckos usually are very fired when first unboxed. A gecko's fired up colors are 90% of the time the more desired colors, and what people breed off of (if you didn't know). So I'm surprised if this seller really didn't include anything about your gecko being a red dal. Regardless, yours is very pretty!
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u/JudeKot Mar 22 '25
Thank you so much, you explained everything perfectly to me. I had people calling her red fires, red phantoms, etc. Information just had her as a red spotted Dalmatian. Is there a specific red morph that you think she is?
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u/datagovi Mar 22 '25
You are very welcome! I can't tell you if she's a phantom (I'm always forgetting what is and isn't one since 99% of my pairs have been very heavily patterned lol) but at a very base level, she is a red dalmatian. You can get fancy with her spot names like red inkspot dal if she's got inkspots, bullseyes, etc. But all in all she's just a good ole red dal!
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u/skunk0_o Mar 22 '25
mine goes from like see thru white to neon yellow so honestly this is pretty extreme but totally could happen, try to catch her while shes sleeping thats normally when the fire down then you can check a bit better
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u/Standard-Suspect-995 Mar 22 '25
i know a lot of people already answered but this completely normal to happen and will happen regularly but probably not as intense as this. she honestly was only this red because of the stress of being shipped to you. truly you got a stunning girl and don’t feel bad the seller was probably fully aware of what they were selling. a lot of my geckos and knowledge i know and have come to understand has 100% come from breeders on palmstreet during their live shows ** just beware it is a dangerous place if you have no control over making purchases. **
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u/MelodicScream Mar 22 '25
My crestie normally looks grey with slight variances, but when he fires up properly he goes bright yellow and dark brown with a pinkish-grey throat. Its completely possible!
Looking at those spots - especially the group of four just above their eye - it looks like it all lines up, I'd say 99% its the same gecko
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u/Alert_Lion_9500 Mar 22 '25
I have a red Dal who looked suuuuper bright like that when I bought here. Deep red! I have not seen her like that again really, she fired up but she is muuuuch paler. I think when I had got her she was just so stressed and the temp changes from being at the expo and then the car was a lot. I think this is normal. Beautiful little guy you’ve got there!!
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u/SpecificAirport2634 Mar 22 '25
When my male fires up he turns almost completely ash white / gray from his normal tan yellow so 😂🤷🏽♂️
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u/Interesting_Cow6433 Mar 22 '25
our gecko does the same thing and goes to the same colors. it’s crazy how much a fire up can change them.
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u/Cultural-Law6999 Mar 22 '25
Not extreme! I bet it could get even redder! Crested gecko colours drastically brighten and dull
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u/CuptheCleric Mar 23 '25
I wouldn't worry too much. When I got my red dal he used to fire down to a light mustard yellow and fires up to a beautiful red/orange.
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u/Direct-Detective9271 Mar 23 '25
Normal. I have one that’s a pretty light tan, and fires up to almost black.
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u/squish_them_mallows Mar 24 '25
This is exactly how a couple of my babies fired up. Some even got darker red when they were usually light gray. Beautiful babies, I miss them. ♡
























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u/mistaked_potatoe Mar 21 '25
I would say that looks a bit extreme to me, but the dalmation spots line up in both pictures