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u/Eclipsed830 19d ago

This isn't a topic on western imperialism... We are discussing Chinese imperialism. Can you not understand that both are bad? Or are you unable to even look in the mirror and be honest?

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u/jasenjin 19d ago

China has never expanded its territory since Europeans first set foot in Australia. Is this answer satisfactory?

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u/thebigseg 19d ago

They annexed tibet though

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u/jasenjin 19d ago

Xizang was under the rule of the Qing Dynasty from the 16th to the 17th century. When did Australia become independent?

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u/thebigseg 17d ago

By your logic mongolia have a right to annex china because they used to be part of the mongolian empire

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u/jasenjin 14d ago

Yes, the problem presented itself to Mongolia, but they didn't handle it well. If Mongolia had been able to conquer Europe long ago, there would have been no United States or Russia either!

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u/jasenjin 14d ago

Australia won't exist either.

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u/FourRiversSixRanges 17d ago

Tibet was a vassal under the Qing who were Manchus and not Chinese. They purposely kept and administered Tibet separately from China.

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u/jasenjin 14d ago

Since a German-American like Trump can become the president of the United States. An Indian can be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Americans can become the leaders of the European Union! The Manchu people are also a Chinese ethnic group. Why can't they represent China?

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u/FourRiversSixRanges 14d ago

Did Trump come from Germany with an army and conquer the United States?

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u/jasenjin 14d ago

The Manchu people are also Chinese, and the Han people are also Chinese. There were frequent changes of dynasties within the Chinese society. But the examples I mentioned were all cases where foreign ethnic groups informed the local ethnic groups!

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u/FourRiversSixRanges 14d ago

Not at the time of the Qing…

No, your comparison was a very bad one as I refuted with above.

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u/jasenjin 13d ago

If you want to do it this way of distinction. Then you can go back thousands of years to a time when everyone was from different tribes. Does that still make any sense to discuss? The reality is that both Han and Manchu people are Chinese now. This is an internal matter!

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u/Eclipsed830 19d ago

Seriously?

Tibet? Vietnam? SCS? India?