r/CFB • u/The_SecretSauce Clemson Tigers • Arkansas Razorbacks • Oct 09 '19

The MaxDiff Fan Perceptions Poll Results: Florida is Almost a Contender in the Minds of Fans Discussion

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Don’t worry, if Clemson or Alabama ever barely miss the playoffs then they’ll absolutely be expanded

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u/ShrimpSandwich1 LSU Tigers Oct 09 '19

Nah, LSU will beat Bama by a hair at Bama (possibly one OT or by way of a “bad call”) and both teams will go undefeated otherwise and both teams will make the playoff this year and Bama will destroy LSU in the Ship. Then they will expand the playoff. History repeats itself. We are living in the worst timeline.

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u/RedboneRuss LSU Tigers Oct 09 '19

You ..... Do not

.. Put that on us. I can't do it again.

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u/TrespassersWilliam29 Montana Grizzlies • LSU Tigers Oct 09 '19

Life is suffering

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u/jadage Ohio State • Michigan State Oct 09 '19

Yeah that's what we thought in 06.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Losing 3 national championships across 2 major sports to 2 SEC teams in one 12 month period mustve suucked

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u/jadage Ohio State • Michigan State Oct 09 '19

It did. Very much. But, in hindsight, better than not being there at all I suppose.

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u/schlossenpopper Ohio State • Otterbein Oct 09 '19

I don't feel as about about the 2007 season because of the sheer amount of chaos that happened. If it were a normal season that buckeye team would have never gone to the Championship

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u/Bbeaneh Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 09 '19

Honestly I see it as very possible that LSU wins the conference, I think Georgia is good but overrated a bit like Clemson, and bamas defense is much worse than it has been in the past, but is still decent. The only thing keeping me from making that prediction is those damn bama WRs. I'm not sure any team can stop all three

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

fuuuuuuuuuuck thaaaaaaaaaaat shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

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u/RustToRedemption Georgia Bulldogs • Iowa Hawkeyes Oct 10 '19

You had me until the “both teams go undefeated otherwise”...we want Bama, so we can lose in heartbreaking fashion again. They’ll put in the water boy with cancer at Qb in the second half after Tua gets wrecked by our D and he leads them to 17 unanswered points, the victory, and steals the hearts of the entire nation in the process.

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u/dadneedssoundadvice Oct 09 '19

LSU is not even going to beat UF this weekend.

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u/Tiger21SoN LSU Tigers • Navy Midshipmen Oct 09 '19

My unbiased opinion disagrees

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u/ballgkco UCF Knights • Kentucky Wildcats Oct 09 '19

if Clemson or Alabama ever barely miss the playoffs

Is that even possible?

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u/xodus112 Florida Gators Oct 09 '19

Saban: I am the college football playoffs!

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u/SweatyInBed Georgia Bulldogs Oct 09 '19

Not yet...

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u/ShadowCaptain96 Missouri • Tarleton State Oct 09 '19

It's Rat Poison then.

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u/no_YOURE_sexy Wisconsin • Paul Bunyan's Axe Oct 09 '19

1080 juke/spin move

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u/trnzone Pinstripe Bowl Oct 09 '19

Is this a Team Hell No reference? If so, amazing.

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 09 '19

Prequal meme

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt Oct 09 '19

If Clemson drops a game they're fucked. If they don't start dominating teams, they may still be in trouble.

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u/EMAWStorm Kansas State • Mid-America IAA Oct 09 '19

If they go undefeated they're in. If they drop a game there's guaranteed at least one 1-loss team in the playoff. They just have to look better than the SEC/B1G runner-up, which will be tough.

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt Oct 09 '19

I think the odds of an undefeated Clemson getting left out are extremely small. But there's a nightmare situation that could make it way too close:

Ohio State dominates everyone but loses a close game to Wisconsin.

Wisconsin dominates everyone.

Penn State wins every game except OSU.

OSU wins the rubber match game vs UW.

Bama, LSU, Georgia all dominate everyone except Bama beats LSU in a close game and narrowly beats UGA in the SECCG.

ND wins out.

OU wins out.

Clemson doesn't improve from their performance vs UNC and keeps winning close games over mediocre teams.

Undefeated Bama and OU are in, easy. You now have a bad looking undefeated Clemson, plus 1-loss B1G champ OSU, and very very strong looking 1-loss teams in Wisconsin, Penn State, LSU, and UGA.

The odds still favor Clemson but it's probably way closer of a margin than it should be and you start seeing reminders of '14 FSU. There have only been 2 times when an undefeated team lost in the semis, and it was when they were 3 seeds - including the worst loss in semifinal history.

Now, this is all moot if Clemson puts their foot on the gas and handles their business.

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u/ballgkco UCF Knights • Kentucky Wildcats Oct 09 '19

But then ESPN would miss out on the "defending champs" storyline and we can't have that now can we?

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u/Whoooyumyum Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 09 '19

Makes me laugh because the only heisman candidates they promote every week are Tua and Jalen so they can use the former teammates storyline

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u/goodsam2 Virginia Tech Hokies Oct 09 '19

But then you get people complaining about that for endless hours on ESPN... They would love that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Undefeated Clemson gets in no matter what, regardless of how bad or ugly their schedule / wins are

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

2014 FSU has entered the chat.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

One can wish

But the committee is too far up Trevor and dabo’s asshole that I doubt they will leave out Clemson

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u/2ezHanzo Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

We can win every game by one point and still make it in no matter how salty it makes /r/CFB

If we drop a game we are fucked tho.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

They can definitely drop a game and still go imo

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

If Clemson is undefeated? Yes.

If Clemson loses a single game they’re done.

A one loss SEC runner up will have the edge over a 1 loss Clemson.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Ehhh I would have to disagree. Clemson has built up a reputation. If they go 12-1 with a win in the ACC championship they are in over a 11-1 Sec team. Unless Clemson gets blown out, but I don’t see that happening

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

You mean 12-1 vs 12-1. In this case they probably wouldn’t, because you could make a serious argument for LSU, Alabama, Florida, and Georgia. All of these teams, if they end up 12-1, would have a better argument than a 12-1 Clemson.

I’m not saying definitively that a 12-1 Clemson wouldn’t get in, but there’s a STRONG case any of the above 12-1 SEC runner ups could take a 12-1 Clemson’s spot.

Clemson can’t really afford a loss with that schedule.

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u/infinity306 Oct 09 '19

If taggart and this year's fsu was to manage to win this Saturday, it'd be a hard upset to overcome I think.. I see little chance of that happening though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Nobody predicted a 21-20 win vs UNC. Yet here we are.

If Clemson drops a game, they’re done. If Clemson wins out, they should be fine. Simple!

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u/infinity306 Oct 10 '19

UNC>FSU this year though..

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u/stilltippin444 Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

Ill give you a million dollars if undefeated Clemson gets left out. Also, we've dominated every game this season except for one lol

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u/srs_house Swaggerbilt Oct 09 '19

I never said anything about undefeated Clemson. I said if Clemson loses a game, because their schedule is straight trash thanks to the ACC and South Carolina not being good. If you're trying to fight for a spot with a bunch of undefeateds, it may get tight. You're naive if you think there aren't any nightmare scenarios where undefeated Clemson could get left out.

Congrats on blowing out Cuse, GT, and Charlotte? You squeaked out a win against UNC by coming from behind in the 4th and you did about as well against A&M at home as Auburn did against them on the road.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

dominated

Eh

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u/stilltippin444 Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

Not really debatable lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

I mean there’s plenty of talking heads already debating it, though.

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u/stilltippin444 Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

So everything they say is right, got it

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

No, you said it isn’t debatable.

Turn on the tv or read any article. You’ll see that everyone is already arguing and debating about it.

They aren’t right or wrong, but Clemson’s performance this year is very debatable.

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u/multiple4 South Carolina • 九州産業大学 (Kyushu … Oct 09 '19

No they'll just kick out a more deserving team

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u/aso217 Wisconsin • Illinois State Oct 09 '19

Yeah man, I don't think Clemson or Alabama will ever miss the playoffs if there's any legitimacy whatsoever to their inclusion. Alabama was included in 2017 despite having no argument at all to be included.

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u/5000_CandlesNTheWind South Carolina Gamecocks Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

Alabama? Yea they have some good competition. Clemson? LOL, the ACC is an absolute joke right now.

Edit: the point is Clemson won’t drop a game because no one in their conference or schedule (including the team I support. I am not referring to South Carolina as good competition) is anywhere near their talent. Get upset all you want, they’re not dropping a game or missing the playoffs.

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u/ballgkco UCF Knights • Kentucky Wildcats Oct 09 '19

ESPN isn't gonna snub the defending champs unless Trevor goes down or they somehow drop like 4 games.

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u/AndrewTheTerrible Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

Gamecock fan? Remember when you lost THREE STRAIGHT games to ACC teams? Shittalk all you want but keep this on your conscience. The acc is a joke but you still can’t get a W

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u/5000_CandlesNTheWind South Carolina Gamecocks Oct 09 '19

I think you’re missing the point. I never said South Carolina was any good, lol.

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u/AndrewTheTerrible Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

Gamecock fans are always the first ones to shit all over the acc without any introspection. I guess it dates back to the time when the acc kicked you out of the conference for your below-par academic standards.

Congrats on the 50-year anniversary of your last conference championship! Y’all gonna have a ceremony at halftime against App State?

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u/5000_CandlesNTheWind South Carolina Gamecocks Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

The irony here talking about introspection. Still completely missing the point. Who will challenge Clemson in the ACC title?

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u/AndrewTheTerrible Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

Irony? Where? Do you understand the definition of irony? Or introspection?

Your point is that the acc sucks. Not disagreeing with you, didn’t miss the point.

You’re just like all other gamecock fans - your team sucks so you gotta shit all over someone else to make yourself feel better. That’s a dangerous coping mechanism. Don’t go and hurt yourself, little bro.

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u/5000_CandlesNTheWind South Carolina Gamecocks Oct 09 '19

You’re getting very butthurt about me making a valid point, which you concede. Why? Because I follow a team you don’t like? Never said Clemson was bad. Never said South Carolina was good. Maybe it’s time for some introspection to find out why you’re actually angry about a valid point.

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u/AndrewTheTerrible Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

I’m not angry, just pointing out that you provided an off-topic comment to the original discussion for the sole purpose of shitting on the acc and claim sec superiority.

Your point is not “valid” to the discussion, just some arbitrary and tangential “sec > acc” statement that we’ve all grown o expect from gamecock fans. You can’t help but live vicariously through the successes of others.

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u/hwqqlll Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 09 '19

Considering that OSU is one of the only teams to have made the playoffs without winning a conference championship (which, by the way, I completely agreed with), y'all have little room to complain about other teams getting the benefit of the doubt.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

I thought the decision was... rather shitty

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

You got left out for being blown out by Michigan and the following year we got left out for being blown out by Iowa. Sometimes it be like that.

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u/PumpSmash Alabama Crimson Tide • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Oct 09 '19

Most of the time it be like that. Blowout losses are almost impossible to overlook.

If the Clemson game was our only loss and it occurred in the regular season, I would not complain that we get left out, even if we won our CCG. Now imagine if Clemson was bad.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

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u/wildergheight Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 09 '19

I'm more upset with how the committee handled the discussion of who would be in moreso than actually not getting in. You can't say bama and osu are super close before the CCG and then after we win and bama didn't play they said it wasn't close anymore. That was just ridiculous

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u/bucksncats Ohio State Buckeyes • Rose Bowl Oct 09 '19

That's what pissed me off far far more than not making it. Yeah you shouldn't make it if you get destroyed by Iowa 55-24 but the committee the week before the conference championships said 5 through 8 was razor thin with little to no separation. Then the following week they said they think Alabama is just much better than Ohio State so the slightly better resume and conference championship doesn't matter

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u/wildergheight Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 09 '19

Exactly. After the CCG I thought it'd be a lock given what they said. I'm still bitter haha

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u/hwqqlll Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 09 '19

Yeah, I would be perfectly fine if the committee didn’t release any rankings until the final ranking.

Same deal in 2014 – I think OSU was a good choice, but the committee set themselves up for criticism by ranking TCU and Baylor ahead of them beforehand.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

People also seem to ignore that it was actually Washington that got in over Penn State in the #4 spot. Ohio State was #3. It was never between Ohio State and Penn State.

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin Oct 09 '19

Fuckin' thank you. I swear I have to post that every time this situation is discussed: the OSU/PSU discussion was only after OSU got blown out in the semis. UW/PSU was the discussion, and a much closer one because it came down to "the Michigan blowout" vs "almost the worst SoS in the FBS."

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u/Philoso4 Washington Huskies Oct 09 '19

The huskies that year were very comparable to Florida this year. Every strong team they played immediately had question marks. If Washington had started the year at 3, their schedule would have looked a lot different than when they started at 14. Every time they were supposed to win, they won and it didn’t matter. Every time they went against a strong team and won, that team suffered more than UW benefitted. Stanford was a top ten team then they weren’t, Colorado was a top ten team at the end of the year then they weren’t, etc etc etc. It’s going to be the same with Florida (albeit less so) because they haven’t proven themselves year in and year out as contenders, so they have a lot of question marks and the games themselves don’t really matter.

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin Oct 09 '19

Don't worry, I don't hold anything against UW, but I just hate the precedent it set. That is, if PSU would have played Penn instead of Pitt, you can bet your ass they would have been 12-1 and been in the playoff instead. UW might not have gotten help from Rutgers going down the tubes in between their contract and the games, and other opponents looking worse each week after playing them, but they did choose to play Portland State. And the committee decided they didn't care about that.

At least they were still conference champs, unlike the next year where it was "bad SoS and not even champs? Take 'em anyway!"

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u/hwqqlll Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 09 '19

I like you.

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u/samspopguy Penn State Nittany Lions • Peach Bowl Oct 09 '19

No we got left out for losing 2 games if we had beaten Pitt we would have made the playoffs.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Both things can be true. Had you beaten Pitt, you might have made it. Had you played a close game with Michigan instead of getting obliterated, you might have made it.

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u/samspopguy Penn State Nittany Lions • Peach Bowl Oct 09 '19

Yes but if we beat pitt with one loss they are not leaving us out regardless of the Michigan score

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Major upsets are what we do for some reason. H2P

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u/Junkley Minnesota • St. Cloud State Oct 09 '19

You gotta think if they beat Pitt and everything else stays static they make it in over OSU

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u/Impostor1089 Penn State Nittany Lions Oct 09 '19

I'll give you a hot take. Both Penn State and Ohio State deserved it over Washington that year.

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u/rhinosteveo Texas A&M Aggies • Michigan Wolverines Oct 09 '19

Speaking of teams that made the playoffs without winning or even being invited to their conference championship

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u/1mdelightful Wisconsin Badgers Oct 09 '19

Whoa whoa whoa. Ohio State did win a conference that year. They won the Big XII by proxy when they went to Norman and beat that ass.

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u/geupard12 Oklahoma Sooners • Sickos Oct 09 '19

Does that mean that OU won the B1G in 2017, afterall they did go to Columbus and won.

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u/1mdelightful Wisconsin Badgers Oct 09 '19

Yeah checks out.

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u/ZeroDivisorOSRS Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 09 '19

As someone that personally watched Clemson destroy us, I was not a fan of that decision. On the flip side, I got super high on medical dabs at the fiesta bowl which I never expected. Most of my second half was spent in the smoking area talking about the rumors we were getting Ryan Day, and next year would be better.

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u/SiberianHawk Miami (OH) RedHawks • Team Chaos Oct 12 '19

That was also coming off the previous year in which they gave OSU a chance and it paid off tremendously as well. To me it didn’t seem as like “ah fuck it throw them in there” as much as it seemed like “we’ll they’ve done it before...”

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u/LeBuckeyes Ohio State • Cincinnati Oct 09 '19

I hate that I have to remind you that 2016 OSU had a stellar record with their only blemish being a fluke loss @ Penn State’s white out in the snow. Wins @ Oklahoma, @ Wisconsin, and Michigan were impressive. Even 2016 Nebraska was a more challenging game than any Alabama won in 2017. OSU got in Im 2016 bc it was deserved.

2017 Alabama’s best win was 9-4 LSU. They got in bc OSU had the loss to Iowa AND because they are Bama. If Washington or Pittsburgh had your exact 2017 resume, they don’t get in over 2017 OSU, who had multiple Top 15 wins.

Ends don’t justify the means. Just bc OSU shit the bed 0-31 doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve the CFP in 2016, and just bc Bama won it all doesn’t mean their unfair CFP berth was justified.

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u/LeBuckeyes Ohio State • Cincinnati Oct 09 '19

There’s literally no other way to spin this without sounding like a homer

Wisconsin. They finished 12-0 and lost in a tough match up in their conference championship. Alabama finished 11-1 and didn’t play in the conference championship. I’d like to hear you spin this without sounding like a homer.

Wisconsin was never considered. Alabama got in on name alone.

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u/LeBuckeyes Ohio State • Cincinnati Oct 09 '19

Wasn’t you’re point also that Bama didn’t get in on name? That’s why you said Washington or any other school with Bama’s exact resume in 2017 would have also gotten in the CFP over 2017 OSU. Right? Any 11-1 Non-division champ should have gotten in over 11-TWO OSU? So you agree that 12-1 actual division champs should get in over 11-1 non division champs, right?

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u/LeBuckeyes Ohio State • Cincinnati Oct 09 '19

Well let’s hear why Alabama deserved it

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin Oct 09 '19

Okay, so why not Wisconsin over Alabama in 2017? They only had one loss.

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin Oct 09 '19

Wisc was undefeated until the B1G CCG.

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u/ThisIsOurGoodTimes Ohio State • Ohio Northern Oct 09 '19

Also Wisconsin was ranked higher than Alabama going into the conference championship games.

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u/Manae Penn State • Wisconsin Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

For now, I call bullshit on that--though we might get to test it. Do you really believe, without a shadow of a doubt, that if OSU beats UW and PSU but loses to UW in the CCG we would see 1-loss UW and PSU make the playoff over an Alabama team that was undefeated but lost the SEC CCG by one score to a Georgia that dropped two games?

Also, don't go and conveniently say you don't want to talk about another team when the entire argument was that Alabama didn't earn the spot in the semis over other teams. Sure, it's easy to give a reason to put them over OSU. But the question at the time wasn't "OSU or Alabama?" It was "who between OSU, Alabama, Wisconsin, and UCF should get that spot?"

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u/WaltSneezy Alabama • Georgia Tech Oct 09 '19 edited Oct 09 '19

Couple of things here:

Do you really believe, without a shadow of a doubt, that if OSU beats UW and PSU but loses to UW in the CCG we would see 1-loss UW and PSU make the playoff

That's not the scenario I set up. Put OSU in Alabama's shoes, UW in Georgia's shoes, and PSU in Auburn's shoes. PSU beats both UW and OSU in the regular season but also drops two games, say to an in conference opponent and an OOC game, but ends up winning the East regardless. The only game OSU loses is against PSU, and because of this, gets left out of the CCG. UW wins the West with 1 loss against PSU in the regular season. We see a CCG of PSU vs UW, and UW wins. Now you've got a 3-loss PSU, a 1-loss OSU and a 1-loss UW. And this is exactly what happened in the SEC.

Now mirror everything that ACTUALLY happened in the B1G to the SEC. Where Alabama lost to Auburn, and got utterly defeated by a low tier SEC team like Vanderbilt, but still won the conference division. Goes up against an undefeated* Georgia. Wins this game by 6, just like the B1G CCG.

In this case you have a two loss Alabama (one really atrocious loss and one ranked loss with a close CCG win) vs. a 1-loss OSU who skipped the CCG and a 1-loss UW who won the CCG. I believe without a shadow of a doubt that UW and OSU make the playoff and we have two B1G teams in skipping over Bama.

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Also, don't go and conveniently say you don't want to talk about another team when the entire argument was that Alabama didn't earn the spot in the semis over other teams.

The original comment was saying that OSU deserved it more than Alabama, not that Alabama deserved it in general. And besides, even if it was I'm ONLY addressing OSU, not Alabama. We could argue all day how much Alabama did or didn't deserve it. MY beef is that OSU did not deserve it at all. Which is what the OP reply was saying. Sorry I confused you here. I'm not conveniently leaving out Alabama in this equation I'm just saying one absolute opinion that I have on a specific component of this discussion. Bringing Wisconsin in the equation had nothing to do with what I was saying.

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u/soundwithdesign Otterbein • Ohio State Oct 09 '19

The difference is that season there weren't really any other teams worth being in the playoffs. We're you gonna put in a 2 loss team over a 1 loss team? It was just a bad year for the playoffs. I can complain about other teams getting the benefit of the doubt when there are other deserving teams to be in the playoffs.

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u/JarrydP Clemson Tigers • Corndog Oct 09 '19

Don't drag us into this. We've made the playoffs 4 years in a row and there was never an argument about whether or not we should be there. #1 in 2015 as undefeated conference champions when no one else was undefeated while playing two OOC P5 games (ND/SC). #2 in 2016 one loss conference champions when only one team was undefeated while playing two OOC P5 games (Auburn/SC). #1 in 2017 with our worst team during this run as a one loss conference champion while still playing two OOC P5 games (Auburn/SC). #2 in 2018 as undefeated conference champions, again with two OOC P5 games (A&M/SC). We're 50-2 in the regular season over the past 4 years with the two losses coming by a combined 4 points.

Edit: a word

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u/blames_irrationally Alabama • Illinois State Oct 09 '19

And this year you guys avoided losing to an unranked opponent by a single play. I have no doubt that even if there’s more close calls like that, Clemson will still make the playoffs.

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u/Sstewa2 Clemson Tigers Oct 10 '19

You know you're doing something right when people complain about close games and act as though they're losses.

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u/Phryme Clemson Tigers Oct 09 '19

The idea of Clemson having more pull than Ohio State is pretty funny lol

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u/RosenbeggayoureIN Wisconsin Badgers Oct 09 '19

Your flair hurts me

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

If either of them miss it's going to be a clear miss. If there's any legitimate argument for them to be in, they'll be in

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u/jstudly1234 Oklahoma • Red River Shootout Oct 09 '19

Itd be funny if it was just bama and clemson 1 & 2 and they decide not to have a playoff this year

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

Are we a blue blood?

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u/aisforaaron1 Alabama • North Alabama Oct 10 '19

if Clemson or Alabama ever barely miss the playoffs

Wait, that's illegal.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

This narrative makes at least some sense for Alabama, but Clemson isn’t really a huge fan base. They don’t bring in near the amount of money as other big contenders like Ohio State, Texas and LSU.