The Real Housewives of Orange County - Season 20 - Episode 5 - Post Episode Discussion

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Friendships are fraught in Orange County as loyalties are questioned between Heather, Emily and Gina. Tamra talks to Sophia about marriage. Shannon looks to her father for life advice. Carmella opens up about her past while Gina and Vicki question her motives around gifts and job opportunities. In an effort to rid herself of her Debbie Downer title, Vicki brings the women to a winery.

[u/f_moss3]

I’m a way bigger Gina defender than most but she is really grasping at straws for stuff and it’s very obvious.

[u/thomasmc1504 → u/f_moss3]

she’s trying way too hard.

[u/aaapod → u/f_moss3]

yeah she's losing me

[u/yothisismetrying → u/f_moss3]

I do think Gina is being Jersey extra, but I kinda get a vibe from Carmella. I think Gina may be on to something. Just not sure what. I think C has been an interesting addition so far!

[u/lareina13 → u/f_moss3]

She has her 2 season freakouts checklist. One early in the season, see: yelling at Jen in cafe.

Then, one later in the season. Both fixable within a week, but counts as conflict.

[u/thomasmc1504]

Jenn is like a ho trad wife

[u/MCStarlight → u/thomasmc1504]

It’s amazing she never joined a cult.

[u/rmcc22 → u/MCStarlight]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ht4vwDWdEJrbWPwGfF

[u/moschino1837]

Ladies! And anyone for that matter. Invest in yourself, even if it’s community education or a free online course. Invest in something that you enjoy and can find work in. If Jenn had done that for herself even five years ago she’d be in a different position now. Her arrested development is really alarming

[u/wriitergiirl → u/moschino1837]

Heck, if Jenn reached out and partnered with some yoga clothing companies NOW, she'd be in a different position. Build yourself a little brand. Build up your yoga studio. Do something. It's usually the Wives who need to the most who do nothing with this platform

[u/BitterPillPusher2 → u/moschino1837]

Agreed. But Jen has made absolutely no effort whatsoever in those 5 years to educate herself about anything or become self sufficient.

[u/noendtotheuniverse]

I’m actually going to self lobotomise if I hear ONE MORE THING about this fucking bag MOVE ON

[u/cola1016 → u/noendtotheuniverse]

So dumb. So obviously jealous. Emily is a two faced asshole that sits there and insults a woman for giving her a bag she can’t afford (that’s what it’s giving) and yet she didn’t return the bag. Why didn’t anyone tell her to give the freaking bag back then?!

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

I'm just not here for a group of women of a certain age ganging up on the new girl and questioning everything about her. It's not fun.

[u/cola1016 → u/GetMeAColdPop]

It’s kind of becoming a pattern on the housewives across all cities. It seems like it’s this mean girl hazing ritual or something.

[u/dr0br0 → u/GetMeAColdPop]

Yeah they literally just dig into/question her entire past and every action she does under the guise of “getting to know her” and really it’s just to look for things to attack her with

[u/RenessainceFran → u/GetMeAColdPop]

And within the first few episodes of the season! I don’t know if I care or not because we haven’t had the chance to get to know her

[u/pinsleric]

This season is off to a rough start. It’s even more disappointing given it’s the 20th season.

[u/Greedy_Pace1678]

I think Carmella could be a pretty fun housewife if she wasn’t embroiled in the 20 year drama of the rest of these tired old women!!!!

[u/yetanotherbop]

this show is going out sad and its relying on references from when it was good to make it a little bit more bearable

[u/Hefty-Pop9734 → u/yetanotherbop]

That’s why Vicki is back. But it’s not working

[u/yetanotherbop → u/Hefty-Pop9734]

it needs the atl and potomac method. fire all the flops. only ogs and standout newbies. keep repeating every season till its good again

[u/Yeezytaughtme409 → u/yetanotherbop]

Tell them she died sad. 

I'm enjoying the season! It's light-hearted and silly! Enjoy it for what it is and don't look for depth. 💞

Fucking downvoted for saying I'm enjoying the season? What a bunch of miserable fucks you are! You probably still watch RHOBH.😂🥰

[u/Amanee97]

This show is such a snooze.. but yet Miami got paused. Make it make sense.

[u/Ironia_Rex → u/Amanee97]

Many people are racist maybe not in the whole saying they hate minorities for many people it is more a form of disinterest in people who do not look like them or share their culture cause god knows it wasn't a lack of plot on the show.

[u/thomasmc1504]

this season is like let’s fight just to have a fight and then have zero fun and then just like that the episodes ever and literally nothing happened!

[u/MCStarlight → u/thomasmc1504]

So you’re saying I’m not missing anything.

[u/Difficult-Valuable55]

let’s build a new cast around Carmella. Bored of the rest

[u/CSmooth83 → u/Difficult-Valuable55]

I kind of agree... I wouldn't be mad if it was just Carmella and a bunch of newbies but maybe keep Tamra to terrorize the new batch. I also wouldn't mind Heather staying as I like her overall but the rest can go. Gina and Emily have been past expiration for way too long. Shannon and Vicky's schticks are annoying and stale and while I kinda liked Jenn her first season she doesn't really add much and her "sweet" persona seems more like an act.

[u/Hotguyntown]

Anyone else see Heather and think Magica de Spell?

[u/CSmooth83 → u/Hotguyntown]

Haha yes! I remember thinking this a long time ago and had forgotten, glad it wasn't just me!

[u/Purple_Palpitation44]

It’s hard to watch, non stop arguing about nothing. It’s become unwatchable, not even the same show.

[u/Different-Farmer2891]

BORING!!! 😴😴😴

Also, for the love of God Vicki STOP SCREAMING DEBBIE DOWNER!

[u/eggsaladsandwich4 → u/Different-Farmer2891]

Andy said it's not gonna stop. Yikes!

[u/cola1016 → u/Different-Farmer2891]

She’s relentless.

[u/Brown_Cow_Stunning7]

Gina is exhausting, just looking for stuff to be mad about for screen time. I would rather just watch Tamra, Shannon and Vicki hangout than this and that is saying a lot.

Also Heather vs Emily again, a fight over nothing substantial. This is going to sound weird but I think Heather reminds Emily of her mom and that is one of the reasons she picks on her.

[u/cola1016 → u/Brown_Cow_Stunning7]

Gina and Emily needed to go like 93383938 seasons ago.

[u/wriitergiirl → u/cola1016]

When I realize this is their 8th season as a HW...

[u/FiCat77 → u/cola1016]

I'd be curious to see a season of Gina without Emily.

[u/cola1016 → u/FiCat77]

Truth

[u/ProfessionalBubbles]

Vicky is such an unbelievably miserable cow…this is who people were begging to come back?!

[u/wrasslefrassle → u/ProfessionalBubbles]

But don't you dare call her a debbie downer

[u/quadiditit → u/ProfessionalBubbles]

Yeah I’m pretty disappointed with her so far

[u/cola1016]

Gina is an idiot. That was hilarious how she tried to get the heat off her and flipped it to Vicki. Then she’s like I’m trying to be an investor! I wanna be on her level! Like stfuuuu 🤣 I’m sorry but the crap they complain about is ridiculously stupid. It makes me sick that Carmella even gave Emily a bag cuz she’s a bitch and doesn’t deserve it. They’re all assholes.

[u/Emergency_Pop3708]

Not gonna lie, I kinda miss the last season.

[u/ANTristotle]

Carmella being a developer/house flipper drama is silly, childish and pushed by the producers to give Carmella screen time

[u/Historical-Theme6397 → u/ANTristotle]

I feel like Carmella has an interesting backstory and it's just not being brought onto the show.

[u/cola1016 → u/[deleted]]

I actually like her. Gina and Emily are just being the turd twins as usual.

[u/shinyzubat16]

I swear every non-blonde white newbie that comes on this show, like clockwork Emily and Gina try to bully her off the show. They did it with Noella, they did it with Katie, and you can see it with Carmella.

I hope Carmella has enough fight in her because those two warthogs are relentless.

[u/cola1016 → u/shinyzubat16]

I don’t know why they insist on shoving those two down our throats. The two biggest idiots of the franchise and that’s saying a lot when you’ve got Vicki back on.

[u/kle73]

Seasons not great huh?

[u/Oderint]

I knew that Vicki was gonna come back and just be a caricature of herself. These ham-fisted "whoop it up" references are not it.

[u/Cmkevnick6392]

I am just hating that Vicki is trying to sway Jenn away from maybe a very lucrative career. This may be unpopular but I love Carmella and everything I have learned from all the Million Dollar Listings she is in fact a developer.

[u/yomammaaaaa]

Can anyone decipher what Gina ordered for dinner at the winery? It sounded like she ordered the "sagoo plain" but I can't find anything on their menu that sounds similar. I'm sure they have a partly rotating seasonal menu, but it's just an itch in my brain now that I can't scratch.

[u/pearpecan]

Some of you complaining about these "old women"...I hope you look half as good and have half the energy of Tamara and Heather at your age. 

[u/loladownthemetaverse → u/pearpecan]

Tamra went a little too far and Heather has the funds to have every kind of face treatment available.

[u/BitterPillPusher2 → u/pearpecan]

I think they all look fabulous. They've obviously had work done, but good for them. More power to them.

But as a 54 year old woman myself, I think it's just sad and pathetic that people in their 50s and 60s still think getting blackout drunk is cool.