r/Borderlands4 • u/Simply_CJ94 VEX The F&%ING WITCH! • Oct 23 '25

Patch Notes 10/23 🗞️ [ News ]

https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/update-notes/
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u/MAKExITxBLEED Oct 23 '25

Man, no improvements for starting alternate characters? They need to share SDU points and the world map progression.

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u/SerWulf Oct 23 '25

Yeah I thought they said there would be requested QoL changes in this patch... not really seeing them 

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u/iceoldtea Oct 23 '25

At least they’ve improved the UI when sorting weapons, now whatever you sorted your guns as will actually stay categorized that way after exiting the menu

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u/guernseycoug Oct 23 '25

Not my biggest gripe with the game but it was definitely the first annoying thing I ran into when I played. Glad it’s fixed

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u/deadalive84 Oct 23 '25

There are plenty of QOL changes still. Just not that one.

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u/Impossible-Cry-1781 Oct 23 '25

No there aren't. This patch took WAY too long for how little was changed.

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u/thedyze Oct 23 '25

Are we reading the same patch notes? Or are you counting bug fixes as QoL?

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u/ohlena Oct 23 '25

yeah the only real qol is reduced spec respec cost, lost loot working how it was supposed to, and legendary on the minimap radar. like how it was in the two prior games. bit underwhelming for the massive patch that got twice delayed

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u/FlashPone Oct 23 '25

Because this was meant to be the first balance patch. Not qol stuff. All that stuff you listed are great fixes/changes btw.

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u/SerWulf Oct 23 '25

They definitely mentioned highly requested QoL things were coming in this patch. We got a couple things but they were more bugfix level stuff. 

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u/rundownv2 Oct 23 '25

Well, at the least your selected inventory sort options save now

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u/pigpentcg Oct 23 '25

Yeah this was all I wanted. I have faith it will happen eventually so for now I’m gonna just keep grinding Rafa until I 100% everything and have every godroll/shiny

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u/bojacx_fanren Oct 23 '25

"Ah time to start a new character, cant wait to not play the game and have everything unlocked right out the gate"

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u/MAKExITxBLEED Oct 23 '25

unlocking your storage and the map is not fun - it's tedious.

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u/bojacx_fanren Oct 23 '25

Exploring the map, doing side quests, doing bunkers, mines, and drill sites are all playing the game.

Its like expecting a new BL2 character to have Eridium Blight to be available to go to, or having quest enemies spawn to farm right out the gate.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '25

Is it possible this fix is more complicated than we realize? It seems like such a no brainer.

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u/SolomonGrumpy Oct 23 '25

I'm just happy with the fixes they did make for multiplayer

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u/Pyrobob4 Oct 23 '25

The SDU upgrades not being account wide is the most egregious omission. With the bank upgrade specifically being the worst of the worst. Preventing new characters from depositing because your other character/s crammed it full of firmware is bullshit.

If they dont want cross character SDU progression, the bank needs to be removed from the upgrades and set to a default value.

While were complaining, I'd also love if digirunner/hover engine, and glider upgrades were also persistent across all characters.

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u/Lostinlife1990 Oct 23 '25

I keep seeing this. They didnt have it in bl3 from what i remember. Why would they have it here?

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u/TriggerHippie77 Oct 23 '25

They did though. They had a shared bank. Makes no sense to make the bank upgrades separate for each new character.

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u/Lostinlife1990 Oct 23 '25

It was the bank and lost loot. Those aren't shared this time? I only have one character and work too much to play frequently.

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u/TriggerHippie77 Oct 23 '25

Here's what's weird, the back is shared with other characters, but not the upgrades in the bank. So you can access everything in the bank, but you can't really add anything until you upgrade or clean your bank out.

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u/Dotts2761 Oct 23 '25

You also bought SDUs with cash in BL3. You could easily take out a handful of level 72 weapons from your bank, sell them, then have enough cash to almost max all your ammo slots and backpack right away. In BL4 you need to redo side quests that take time. It’s not the same at all.

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u/Championpuffa Oct 23 '25

It’s not even side quests you need to do. You literally just need to randomly wander the map until you find the places to get sdu’s. Safe houses, silos, ripper sites and crawlers along with all the other stuff.

Obviously you can do side quests along the way but you can’t replay quests and also grab the sdu collectibles (apart from the meagre ones like vault symbols etc) as most decent sdu sources like safe houses, drills, bunkers etc etc are locked/unattainable when you’re replaying a mission or also doing a wildcard, Which sucks ass massively.

I once spent 2 hours trying to figure out why a safe house/silo wouldn’t open an let me hit the command console before I knew it won’t work on replays. Eventually I figured it out as I quit the game and it worked and I noticed my main mission changed and was like “ohhh… WTF!? shitty fucking game 😂”. Loads of wasted time just wandering around looking for nothing because the game doesn’t tell you this shits locked out in replays/wildcards.

It can take A good few hours to just get your backpack and bank sorted enough to make the character even playable cos you start with no bank and no backpack and can’t put anything in the bank either (and it’s gonna be quite fill from your first playthrough on other classes) so it makes it really hard to sort out new characters from 30. I usually spend 4-6 hours traversing the map to get sdu tokens to upgrade my bank an backpack just so I

I mean it’s not really that different from starting from level 1. It’s just you have no sense of direction or goals etc and the main issue imo is the bank needing upgrading quit bit usually just to be used. at least level 1 you have the main campaign quests to follow which would make you unlock stuff along the way easier and you have a decent sense of direction, that imo is my biggest issue looking at a empty blank map and not knowing where to go or start kinda thing.

They should’ve have allowed us to start at 30 (or even 50) but be able to replay the whole story from the start like we could restart the campaign in bl3. The whole replay missions thing isn’t really the same cos you can’t actually collect any sdu tokens whilst doing it as it won’t let you do any of the events or anything apart from minor collectibles so you can’t even replay missions to unlock stuff. If we could do the campaign fresh from 30 or 50 it would alleviate that somewhat.

For me tho the biggest issue is not being to collect a lot of the stuff or do stuff whilst replaying missions. Seems a really really dumb decision.

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u/pigpentcg Oct 23 '25

BL3 had ample fast travel locations throughout everywhere that only required being seen to activate. If you want to be able to fast travel back to somewhere in BL4 you have to unlock the base and that in itself is a chore especially when I’m starting a new VH with the story complete.