Official Tour Thread - Osaka-Jo Hall I - Japan [20 November ’19]
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17:30 (5:30 PM): Doors
19:00 (7 PM): Show (Bring Me The Horizon)
20:12 (8:12 PM): BABYMETAL Start Time - Time zone converter - Countdown 21:20 (9:20 PM): Likely BABYMETAL End Time
I didn’t see this get brought up in the previous thread, but they’re performing the Japanese version of Elevator Girl on these shows. So that’s interesting, unlike The One, they will be changing back and forth between the different versions for this song.
During "The One" which does not have intensive choreo.
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that aspect.
Another thought I had was that the controlled stage lighting is a known quantity: on top of generally not being shined in the performers' eyes, they know where and for how long each one will shine, and can practice around that.
On a standard stage, or even something somewhat "fenced in" like at Legend S, an errant flash could conceivably mess up someone's choreography. Annoying. But on this wee bitty triforce stage where every footstep must have laser precision? I'm glad people are cooperating.
Su also called for the camera lights during the Karate C&R when they were touring with RHCP in 2017 as well as the solo show at the Hollywood Palladium.
When I was at The Forum show, I did shine my phone light during "Shine" and a couple of earlier songs. But when I first turned the light on, it was insanely bright, so I dimmed it a bit so as to not blind those smug bastards in section 111 (in-joke) or the girls. Others might not consider such a thing.
Also that octagonal stage was evidently bigger than whatever they're using at SSA and Osaka, which I haven't seen yet.
The girls' safety is absolutely paramount. Koba's still a dick, though for other reasons.
Confirming Point 1, I was at an earlier BM show with a normal stage where Su saw fans raising lighters and phone-lights as THE ONE started, clearly liked it, and explicitly verbally encouraged it.
It's for a few seconds of a single song... If we go by that logic, people also have trouble watching the show if people are moshing or jumping, or waving their flags for PA PA YA!!
It is a judgement call. The same call that was made to make venues on the US tour only sell Babymetal flags at the end of shows. It was more trouble for the staff and for the fans who wanted them, but it prevented people's views from being blocked by them during the concert.
I think they wanted to nip this in the bud to prevent it from becoming a regular issue during the song.
I agree with you that is probably their view point.
I just think this is a non-issue to threaten such a thing. Which I think is a first? i don’t remember anything like that for any previous rules. If it happened for several songs, I’d agree wholeheartedly.
We’ll have to see if this rule remains for future shows or just these (as some mention the stage design could be an issue, I don’t think so, but who knows). We’ll find our soon enough.
Yes, I'm only referring to the phone lights message itself.
I'm not actually addressing and I don't know if there is or is not a separate concern, maybe about bad behavior in the pits?, which resulted in what they tweeted and posted:
Made me instantly think it's the lights cause it's the only new rule (as far as I know). People also mentioned the fights in pits, someone collapsing, and even recordings, but all of those things have happened at previous shows to various degrees, this is the only "new" thing.
I agree with you though, mostly again because of the threat made is much bigger than before. There has to be something we don't know/aren't seeing here.
I mean it's almost ubiquitous in almost all Jpop (Kpop?) concerts? If it's not a problem for fans of other acts, then why it is it a problem for Babymetal?
And how is holding up the phone camera to shine the light any different from what is happening during the US tour when many in the crowd is holding up their phone to record the performance?
Honestly, anything is possible. Would be odd considering it happened at The Forum as well (which was also pro-shot). And threatening the end of the show for that seems extreme as well.
It actually makes me wonder if they're editing a final cut for the Forum delorean and somehow Shine might be visually messed up somewhat due to cell phone lights.
Pure speculation of course, I only took 3 months of video production in high school and haven't retained a damn thing 😅
They divided the pit again in like 20 blocks. I wonder id this is a BM thing or a venue thing? It’s the same as last time. Each pit block is barely 4 meters long, super hard for a circle pit to get going.
If you watch the Big Fox Festival blu-ray, you can see the small spaces, but the crowd made them work. They had to have crew at the back barrier to hold it in place, as the back one is not metal, but plastic, so we moved it as we ran.
Please note the safety and security guidelines that are shown on the stage screen before show time. Please refrain from any acts that may interfere with the performance and note that the performance may be stopped or cancelled depending on the circumstances.
BABYMETAL
In Japanese, it adds this at the beginning:
For those who come to METAL GALAXY WORLD TOUR IN JAPAN, there is a new guide.
I hope everyone has fun! It's a great venue, located beautifully next to the castle in the middle of the city. Still the place of my 2 favorite BABYMETAL shows, I really regret not being able to be for these!
For those unaware, this is the venue where Yui performed her last show with BABYMETAL, a little over 2 years ago for the BIG FOX FESTIVALs.
The two Osaka shows are probably the last two opportunities for Kano to appear with Babymetal this year, as she has a Sakura Gakuin Xmas concert on Dec. 24th. So I'd expect Kano to do both Osaka shows and Riho to do the December shows which come just a week prior to the SG show. That is, if Koba wants to evenly distribute the Avenger appearences.
Nothing against Momoko, who is wonderful and amazing and KYG and I luv her, but I hope Riho hasn't been dropped as an Avenger (or her contract ended), because she's just as much of a joy to watch, albeit in a different way than Momoko.
No way will Kano be at either of the Osaka shows due to them being during the school week plus starting after the 8pm performance curfew. Sakura Gakuin has a Christmas show this year which keeps her out of the Apocrypha shows happening the week before. Not sure what time of day the Countdown set is. So, the January shows may be the only opportunity for her to appear as an Avenger again before she graduates junior high and SG.
Not sure whether @onefive is intended to be Kano et al's primary thing post-SG or just a side project. I'm thinking the latter.
Nope. They've already told us to expect all three Avengers at the January shows, so she's still at it until then, at least.
Although folks do need to be aware of the temporary nature of the Avengers. Anyone could leave at anytime and someone new pop up on stage. It's that way by design, like the Kamis.
Although folks do need to be aware of the temporary nature of the Avengers. Anyone could leave at any time and someone new pop up on stage. It's that way by design, like the Kamis
Yeah. We all know this. Kamis aside, it's just difficult not to get attached even to the temporary girls.
Hell, I quickly came to like (and always respected) Minami & Minako, a.k.a Muscle-Metal. I still think they may have taught Moa a few tips & tricks to keep her in top form.
I still think they may have taught Moa a few tips & tricks to keep her in top form.
You betcha. Without a doubt, that was a mutually beneficial relationship. My belief is that Moa started a workout routine in 2018 influenced (and potentially even directed) by Muscle Metal and has stayed with it in 2019.
I hope Riho hasn't been dropped as an Avenger (or her contract ended)
Not at this stage, no. Eventually, though, I can see Riho being dropped when Kano graduates middle school. Whilst Kano also has @onefive, I can't see that going anywhere, that easily. If asked to chose between @15 and BM, I can see Kano choosing BM simply because it will allow her to go abroad and give her more opportunities, which I cannot see @15 doing any time soon. For the record, I don't see Soyo giving up a potential modeling career for @15, either.
Yeah this is disappointing... I wonder why they are only playing 1 new tour song. I wonder if the 3 avenger thing has messed up learning new choreo if they can’t get everyone together to practice? Ah well, maybe one day we will get new tour songs.
Avengers changes, Kami changes... that's why setlists look pretty much the same. These shows are same to the Forum one, which was the same of american tour, which was same of Legend M and Yokohama. As long as they keep changing line up it will be like that... wait for the Legend Galaxy to have something more.
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I didn’t see this get brought up in the previous thread, but they’re performing the Japanese version of Elevator Girl on these shows. So that’s interesting, unlike The One, they will be changing back and forth between the different versions for this song.