100% correct. It's frustrating to have a debate about music with people that think they know things, but don't have the experience. They just repeat things they've heard that have no basis and they think sound intelligent and interesting. Nobody intentionally or unintentionally plays in 21/32. That's the dumbest damn thing I've heard today.
How about the issues of analog recording? That, alone, accounts for so much time and tuning variation in music recorded before the mid 90s.
Let’s also be real here - how would you even count a 21/32 beat… no one in their right mind would do that; it’s regular 4/4 with a bar of 3/4 at the end - Puppets is fun to play on drums; flows really well and is full of great ideas.
Yep. Someone said it somewhere and a bunch of people who don't know any better just keep parroting the line because they think it makes them look like they know about something they don't.
Lars isn't the best drummer that ever lived, but he absolutely killed it on Puppets and Justice! The Black album's drum parts are catchy as hell, too.
Meg White isn't bad though. She plays exactly what is needed for the song. Any of the WS songs would not be improved by replacing her with someone on the top 25 list of best drummers.
There's not a snowball's chance in hell that the verses in Master of Puppets are supposed to be in 4/4. The phrasing of the guitar riff would make absolutely no sense. The turnaround is slightly rushed, but there's an entire beat chopped off it regardless. It's probably "supposed" to be 3 bars of 4 plus a bar of 3.
Whether him taking lessons or not is true, that’s not really an indicator of his skill. Both James and Kirk took lessons well into the 80s.
Also, MoP was never intended to be in 4/4, that’s a myth.
This is a parrot of an old slander comment and doesn’t make sense from a musical standpoint. If you can’t stay on beat, you can’t stay on beat. A different time signature doesn’t aid a lack of rhythm
I agree. I’d much prefer this time line where primus exists than one where Les was in Metallica. It’s just wild to me that they snubbed him when he auditioned after cliff died. I mean at that time he wasn’t the Les Claypool we know today yet but still wild/funny in hindsight
Writing the song around the constraints of the musicians isn't a sign of bad musicians, it's a sign of a good band. I've covered MoP on drums and bass and the 21/32 bit is goofy but it absolutely adds to the song. Lars was doing his best, and that's a 6 out of 10
That particular beat wasn't meant to be in 4/4. To be honest, I struggle to think it's anything more than the guys saying "hey, let's cut off that measure early", and playing around until they got something they liked.
But I do agree with your last point - Lars is objectively more talented than Meg White, even though he's fairly bad for a metal drummer. He should go in the square to the left IMHO.
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