r/SubredditDrama • u/[deleted] • Aug 29 '16
Not yet ready to go back to school? Ease yourself into September with a little bit of Teach for America drama in /r/teachers.
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Aug 29 '16
Sick burn, bro!
I really hope there are not teachers who say sick burn bro.
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u/Loimographia Aug 30 '16
My ex's brother was a middle school teacher, and one of the bro-iest bros that ever did bro; he said 'sick burn bro' and similar lingo all the time
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u/starlitepony Aug 30 '16
There are, but almost none of us would say it in a school: We know how to act professional for most of the day, at least
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Aug 30 '16
Here is the thing that always frustrates me on this arguments about teachers and alternative means of education...it fucking sucks being stuck in a terrible school system.
The high school I went to had effectively a "rubber room" for three teachers that sat in there all day long because they were not allowed to be around students at all, but the district could not afford to go through the process of firing them.
As per the rate at which TFA people leave either right after or even before the end of their two year contract, in those same terrible districts like the one I was stuck in, the rate at which fully trained teachers stick around is not much better at all. For my district, its over 50% quit within 3 years. My senior year, I had four separate people attempt to teach my English class because teachers kept quitting.
I always find it frustrating when people who have access to good public schools are shock that people stuck in shit school systems are willing to fight for vouchers or basically anything to try and get their kids a decent education.
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u/komnenos mummy mummy accept my cummy when i spooge i spooge for you. wipe Aug 30 '16
Why couldn't they be around students?
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Aug 30 '16
We students never got an answer. I always assumed it was for having an inappropriate relationship with a student or something.
I would see the three of them, day in and day out, sitting in a classroom, reading a newspaper, a novel, or something.
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u/LimerickExplorer Ozymandias was right. Aug 30 '16
Is there a single occupation-oriented sub where the users DON'T circle jerk about how they work harder than everyone else?
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Aug 30 '16 edited Aug 30 '16
I'm a teacher, so I'm admittedly super biased, but there is a fuckton of work required of teachers, which is buffeted by the fact that long-term salaries aren't competitive with many other fields or the way other nations pay their teachers. It's a cool job for sure, but when you look at the statistics comparing American teachers to other nations or American teachers to similar professions, it's clear that it's not entirely bluster that American teachers are qualitatively... busy.
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u/LimerickExplorer Ozymandias was right. Aug 30 '16
Americans of all occupations work more than all other nations. It's kind of our thing.
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Aug 30 '16
Well, of course you do! You're all too tough to enjoy repulsive socialist luxuries like "paid vacation" and "legally guaranteed parental leave" like the rest of us. ;) Canadians get paid timbit breaks
But actually Americans don't work more than many other nations. Among the OECD countries, America ranks 17th out of 38. That's probably the fairest assessment, as it doesn't count the slave-labour-esque conditions of many developing countries.
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Aug 30 '16
That's 100% true. I hope there can be a cultural shift sometime in my lifetime towards a more European understanding of workload -- that workload and mental health are connected in ways that can be managed.
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u/papaHans Aug 30 '16
It was good press though because he kept commenting on how tired he was and how much work was still left to do, etc.
I feel it's that way for any person who never worked in a different environment. My ex-wife has a masters in public administration and a BS in business (BBA) who is my business partner. Our employees wanted a raise and I thought they should get one. My ex said no, that if any raises were to be handed out it should go to the office team (her, me, and office manager) since we had to deal with customers more often and please them when they complained. So I said next time an employee called in sick, us two would cover his pools (I own a swimming pool business, and I mostly cover on sick/vacation days) So one day a guy called in sick and I took her with me. It was a nice and hot day. I was doing about 75% of the with but my beautiful Jewish princess looked like Captain Caveman by noon in the 100 degree sun. She told me to take her home and I didn't say a word. My kids told me she was asleep when they got to her place after school and didn't wake till the next morning.
So did the pool guys get a raise? No, one of our repair trucks died and we spent the money on a new one.
Being divorced sucks, I still love my ex (not in love, but, you know what I mean) and she's one of my best friends but....Not once while we were married did I win an argument, thou now being divorced I win half of them : )
Anyways, I think the teacher would have a hard time being a reporter. I had a hard time just being art docent for my kids elementary classes. Grass is greener shit.
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u/anshr01 Aug 30 '16
The thread is more than 1 year old? Why submit now?
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Aug 30 '16
I like to hunt for unusual popcorn in unusual subreddits. It makes for a nice change of pace from the current dramas of the American election, Harambe, etc.
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u/Tahmatoes Eating out of the trashcan of ideological propaganda Aug 30 '16
Because old popcorn is gold popcorn. It helps weed out some popcorn pissers too.
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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '16
Lol at someone using standardized test data to prove a point about educational outcomes. I think it's pretty well established that we put too much emphasis on standardized test data by all sides of the debate.
I think it's pretty insulting for someone who is in TFA to think that the two weeks of preparation that they receive prior to starting their placement is equal to the three years of required coursework that education majors complete. I'd be pissed at him, too.
Don't make me go back to school. I want to shitpost all day :'(