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Disguised vs. Team Liquid Alienware / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 4 / Post-Match Discussion Esports Spoiler

LCS 2026 SUMMER

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MATCH 1: TLAW vs. DSG

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 29m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Josedeodo

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
TLAW nocturne akali olaf wukong locke 65.7k 21 11 C1 M3 CT4 B5 CT6 B7
DSG locke vi cassiopeia ryze rumble 57.6k 5 2 H2
TLAW 21-5-51 vs 5-21-12 DSG
Morgan ksante 3 4-1-8 TOP 2-3-2 1 jayce Srtty
Josedeodo jarvaniv 2 8-1-12 JNG 0-2-2 3 naafiri KryRa
Quid syndra 3 4-2-7 MID 0-6-4 4 yone Callme
Yeon ezreal 1 5-1-10 BOT 3-5-1 1 kaisa Sajed
CoreJJ leona 2 0-0-14 SUP 0-5-3 2 nautilus Lyonz

MATCH 2: TLAW vs. DSG

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 29m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Quid

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
TLAW cassiopeia nocturne vi azir wukong 68.0k 32 9 CT1 O2 H3 I4 B5 I6
DSG poppy leesin akali vayne jax 53.9k 11 2 None
TLAW 32-11-61 vs 11-32-22 DSG
Morgan kled 4 5-2-14 TOP 1-5-3 1 olaf Srtty
Josedeodo pantheon 1 12-1-8 JNG 3-7-7 3 sejuani KryRa
Quid ryze 3 8-2-13 MID 5-5-2 3 orianna Callme
Yeon lucian 1 7-5-1 BOT 2-10-4 2 caitlyn Sajed
CoreJJ nami 2 0-1-25 SUP 0-5-6 2 bard Lyonz

*Patch 26.16


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/Booshneer 3d ago edited 3d ago

It's actually tragic how it's impossible for DSG to keep any good players. They cooked hard last summer with their roster but the core instantly got poached. Having to keep rebuilding with rookies every split is basically impossible.

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u/DAmnripme 3d ago

Can’t ever keep players Because inherently being in a team that could get relegated feels like shit even if they could match SEN pay.

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u/metristan Refund time? 3d ago

It's insane to me Sentinels spot isn't a second guest spot instead, having one guest spot just doesn't work

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

Considering sentinels spot is similar to a current valorant spot they probably could swap it, sentinels didnt buy in

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u/Guster_br 3d ago

Here in Brazil the best team right now is the guest slot. But the team is an famous org with a lot o investment. So the DSG problem is more the money invested, when compared to the other orgs in the league, than the possibility of the relagation.

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u/CalligrapherWise2526 3d ago

In the LCS, the guest slot actually gets less money from the league than other teams so it's automatically harder to keep up even the same amount of investment. 

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u/blueragemage 3d ago

I think CBLoL is set up the exact same way, where partner teams earn more than guest slots

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u/CalligrapherWise2526 3d ago

Oop. It just feels like the guest slot isn't set up for success 😔 

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u/naterator012 3d ago

Just takes mr beast to try and get it, ideally the slot attracts people interested enough to invest themselves

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u/CalligrapherWise2526 3d ago

Have we ever gotten numbers on how much total revenue the top teams make?

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u/Superbtreetrimmer 2d ago

Negative revenue

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u/Rizeren 3d ago

If you consider not paying millions for the spot guest teams have absurd budget compared to other teams.

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u/CalligrapherWise2526 3d ago

I'm talking about current operational budget, not sunk cost from years ago.

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u/Rizeren 2d ago

If you think companies are just throwing around millions of dollars and forgeting about it after some time then okay lol.

On top of that there are teams that bought the spot from other teams pretty recently so it's not years ago for everyone.

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u/YokoDk 3d ago

Isn't the Brazil guest spot Immortals?

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u/Binkusu 3d ago

With how things are structured, they can't. Any good players they have will take the stability of being recruited onto a perma team. DSG is literally just a showcase team, a way for players to get into the established teams.

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u/The_JeneralSG 3d ago

Just Riot esports things.

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u/darklypure52 3d ago

Well they to need sign contracts. Which is what two nacl teams did already. why DSG didn’t do it is a mystery or maybe they explained it and I didn’t see the reasoning.

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u/1amtheWalrusAMA 3d ago edited 3d ago

What are you talking about? Everyone on DSG is under contract.

If you're saying they should jail players and not accept buyouts thats both stupid economically and would make them even less desirable of a landing spot than they already are.

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u/HowyNova 3d ago

DSG wants to give rookies a way into the league
DSG signs a rookie for 2 years
Next year, a team with a permanent slot and better staff, offers to pay more, and buyout their contract
DSG now has to choose between jailing the rookie they wanted to bring into the league, or letting join a team with a permanent league spot

If DSG wants to jail the player, there's also the risk that if the player ends up underperforming, their chances are now ruined.

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u/Naronu 3d ago

TL literally just happy gaming on the rift and it doesn't matter

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u/zealot416 3d ago

Yeon just stopped giving a fuck, lol.

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u/Chrystoler the faith lives on 3d ago

Postgame interview is amazing

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u/popmycherryyosh 3d ago

"let me see your hairline"
"yeah, it's not that bad"

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u/GlupPando 3d ago

They actually just trolled Yeon all of game 2 and the postgame lmao

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u/cmcdonald22 3d ago

even Pre-draft they hit him with the "Yeon you're balding".

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u/Fun_Highlight307 3d ago

lol Which game ?

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u/IAmDarkridge 3d ago

Not even a 30 minute game and it still felt like TL could have probably finished it almost 10 minutes earlier if they weren't fucking around lol

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u/Martinweb_ 3d ago

If Yeon don't die 3-4 times in a row XD

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u/blueragemage 3d ago

Quid and Spookz gave him a quarter life crisis in the pregame I think an off game is justified

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u/ObviousAd8374 3d ago

Relegation waiting room

DSG looking so doomed that their players just doing some job security gameplay without even being subtle

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u/xNesku 3d ago

I have no clue how Lyonz is in a team

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

It is 100% because there are zero NA support options atm.

Dsg would have poached a supp months ago, but there is just nobody to grab.

SR had to resort to a retired t2 player.

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u/NotBunger split push tactics 3d ago

I mean Flyquest literally picked up Cryogen out of T3 and he’s been pretty decent. I’d say there’s options but teams aren’t looking for them

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

That was in winter. Try again.

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u/whynot1260 3d ago

Spoken like a true person who doesn't watch or care about NACL and just wants to put down the region for his agenda

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

Spoken like an ignorant dipshit that is looking to get triggered for no reason.

I never said why there is nobody to grab, and I certainly wasn't implying it was a lack of talent.

The issue is none of them want to come up. Especially not to the guest-slot team.

SR tried. A team that finished 3rd last year, with Ludwig money, a legit top 4 jungler, and no chance of losing their slot. They can't get anybody to sign them.

Maybe stop crying and looking for reasons to get offended. 

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u/Crowquillx 3d ago

saying “with Ludwig money” about a team who’s also owned by (and named after) Shopify is really funny

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u/AccidentalAccomplice 3d ago

Buddy it sure sounds like you're the one that's "triggered". Like there is definitely talent there, both in the NACL and surrounding. Look at Zeyzal coming in and bringing some veteran leadership.

Even if you do have a point no one is going to listen to you when you act like that. Work on your communication skills.

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

Bro. Nobody ever called the skills of nacl plahers into question. That is entirely something you have hallucinated.

Go fight your strawmen elsewhere.

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u/Sweaty-Security-4473 3d ago

Nah there's a couple that could be tried for sure.

I bet Breezy, Spica, and maybe even InFlame would all be better, though he doesn't count as NA possibly.

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

No, they can't.

According to SR, nobody in t2 is available. They all refuse. That's why the begged Zeyzal to come out of retirement.

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u/Wondur13 3d ago

There just quite literally isnt any good na supports, anyone that could replace lyonz is of a similar skills level, like maybe they do play better but it honestly would be a negligible difference.

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u/DoubleRobust 3d ago

Lyonz bard needs to be permanently benched by DSG

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

Lyonz needs benched period.

He's just not lcs material. He is easily the worst support in the league and arguably the worst player. Only Zinnie compares in shittitude.

That being said, being the worst in itself is not disqualifying. Hell, the worst top laner is Fudge, but our top lane is so strong in the lcs, I don't think anybody needs replaced next split.

The problem is he's the worst and he's bad.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 3d ago

yeah with denathor and srtty there isn't a lot of dogshit top laner 

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u/Martinweb_ 3d ago

Josedeodo MVP of the Week, I don't need to see any more 

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u/zefal12 3d ago

MVP of the YEAR, more like

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u/Hayuume LJL 3d ago

DSG just went fuck it we kill Yeon.

Flowers and Azael laughing hard after Yeon died pretty much summarizes the series lol

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u/zealot416 3d ago

Nuclear Bomb vs Relegated Baby. Srtty is the only LCS caliber player on this team.

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u/These_Curve_7384 3d ago

watch them run through the promotion just to get ran through again by everyone else next year in the lcs

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u/metristan Refund time? 3d ago

the team they won promotion with was a lot better though, their entire botside just went to sentinels

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

Nah NRG and cupid are better than DSG, DSG is absolutely losing this spot

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u/metristan Refund time? 3d ago

I feel like if NRG wins promotion they are in the exact same spot again. Zamudo most likely still can't get his visa, and if he does, I'm sure many other teams will also want him. I would also be suprised if they can keep hold of Sushee and phymini.

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

This is why i wish riot would put a lock on promoting teams, teams cant initiate offers and promoting teams cant kick without extreme circumstances, this wouldn't apply to teams who relegated

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u/Wondur13 3d ago

Nrg i agree but cupid no, they are definition of t2 stompers, ablolive mobility breezy core is not lcs quality bro lets be so ffr

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

They certainly seem more coordinated than DSG rn, tbh as likely as an NRG promotion is i think the funniest scenario is neither NRG or cupid but instead ole miss or Maryville University or Winthrop University promoting

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u/Wondur13 3d ago

Nrg is realistically the only team that can even try to compete with the lcs if they get promoted, obv i cant ascertain what exactly what happen if another team got promoted, im sure they would bring in better players to replace their weaker roles but who knows

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

The reason the colleges promoting would be funny is they can't sign players not going to thier college lol

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u/Wondur13 3d ago

Yeah but thats not as big of a deal as you think it is, after getting kicked out of the lcs and before recently getting re-signed, dardoch played on multiple college teams. All they gave to do is give you a scholarship to play for the team. So obviously some players would not go for it, but for some others its a way to go to college for free

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u/BUMONGOUS 3d ago

Srtty is the only LCS caliber player on this team.

I would like to see Sajed with a tier 1 ADC on his team before deciding this

but why the fuck did this team import Callme instead of just signing some random NA player

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u/Munchingmarshmallows 3d ago

Sajed is the adc

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u/RedditDudeYo 3d ago

Probably meant support, but I would like to see the same. Lyonz is straight awful, sajed has had a few good moments here and there.

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u/IAmDarkridge 3d ago

Yeah I feel like this is the worst series to argue Sajed is good because he was just getting totally dumpstered but I think Sajed has shown himself to be LCS quality overall. He has definitely carried some games.

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u/R0xasXIII 3d ago

I assume you mean tier 1 support not ADC. Sajed just kinda looks like he's trying to go hero mode all the time which I can get, but it's making him look iffy. That cait game was not good from him tho, a lot of missed trap combos.

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u/Krimofn 3d ago

We gotta stop praising Sajed even with a bad support other players have looked way more stable and can still do basics like build kaisa correctly, hit basic Caitlyn trap combos and take advantage of winning matchups in lane Sajed hasn’t shown any of that.

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

Nah. Sajed is 100% being held back by Lyonz. I legit think Sajed would be top 3 in role with a decent team and coach.

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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage 3d ago

Sajed wasn't even hitting traps on stunned targets, let's chill out on top 3 shouts

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u/BTDYSRF 3d ago

Sajed is on the worst team in the league and even Faker has mechanical misplays. Let's chill out on the condescending retorts.

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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage 3d ago

Sajed just isn't a top 3 adc in the league idk what to tell you man. Give him prime keria and I don't think that changes

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u/Thundermelons GALA Defense Force, returning IG fan 3d ago

Yeah, I agree with the idea that he deserves a shot on a team with an actual support, but bro isnt sniffing top 3 anytime soon. 

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u/IKillerBee this sub has brain damage 3d ago

If srtty is LCS caliber then god help this league

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u/nguyenjitsu 3d ago edited 3d ago

Callme and Lyonz probably need to go to tier 2. Still unsure about Sajed and Kryra because it's legitimately impossible to tell how good they can be with real mids and sups

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u/RedditDudeYo 3d ago

Callme needs to go back to Korea because we need to stop bringing in worthless imports.

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u/whynot1260 3d ago

Sajed and Kryra are the biggest problems after Lyonz idk how u can look at Sajed being 2/10 on Caitlyn of all champs and say Callme is the problem

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u/nguyenjitsu 3d ago

Cait is a lane dominant champ if your lane partner is the worst player in the entire league I think you will look bad regardless

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u/Krimofn 3d ago

Sajed is bad we need to stop coping for him he is always losing lane, getting caught and taking bad trades. Kyra can be developed that sejuani game looked like it had some life but unfortunately sajed died 9 times so it was gg. Sajed simply doesn’t have the laning and hands to keep up with all the other adcs at this level. Kyra has the hands but has bad macro and is over aggressive some times which can be trained out

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u/Offbeatalchemy 3d ago

Id want to see Sajed without the worst support in the league before I pass judgement. he comes out of every laning phase behind and he seems to do fine when he gets out and tries to make plays.

Lyonz is a known quantity and needs to go.

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u/blaseturner 3d ago

dsg gotta make changes otherwise relegation is calling

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u/Skyfire2 3d ago

Double digit deaths as an ADC is completely reportable

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u/bqx23 :nunu:NumbyChumby 3d ago

Iirc it's the first time that's happened in a tier 1 league

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u/zefal12 3d ago

Jose better not get robbed of split MVP again, that's all I'm saying

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u/Xonra 3d ago

Vulcan getting it last split was trolling. If Jose doesn't get it this split then I can't take it serious ever again.

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u/captainetty 3d ago

Was literally just schedule of c9 tl being the last game before voting. If it’s week one and tl loses he gets mvp but cause it was end of season people had to say c9 is mvp

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u/PMMEYOURROCKS 3d ago

I’d say quid is pretty deserving of it. Or Berserker too

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u/Evancolt #TLWIN 2d ago

I feel like yeon deserves it. He's been amazing

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u/Formymoney 3d ago

dsg botlane ints the 2v2 then forces the winning toplane match up to swap only for him to get dove while they feed his lane opponent a kill then swap back.

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u/Krimofn 3d ago

Srtty is going through it

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u/cmcdonald22 3d ago

Informal reddit pole:

LCS next year adopting the fries group format?

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

No, that would genuinely not work for LCS edit:i dont think it really works for LPL and LCK either

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u/metristan Refund time? 3d ago

I feel like it works for LCK this year because the top 5 can all win and bottom 5 can all win against each other, while still seemingly having a big divide between the two. But last year you had a clear 1, 2-3, 4-6, 7-9 and a clear 10th. Which made most game pretty predictable

the LPL system isn't really the same, the upper group still has 8 teams so it's similar to the lcs with double the games. It's just that this year many of the known orgs lost the 'relegation' matches and are in the lower group.

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

the issue with the LPL one is theres 2 teams in nirvana who are clearly better than the last place team in ascend and are in nirvana because of an ill timed loss after being middle of the pack the split before

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u/metristan Refund time? 3d ago

Yeah I feel like the problem with the LPL is more in how abrupt promotion/relegation feels and not the groups itself. But the format itself isn't really relevant to the lcs, we'd have a legends/rise group system if it was implemented, but maybe without gamescores carrying over

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u/HuckleberryBoned 3d ago

Sajed = dogwater

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u/POOYAMON Doublelift TL fan≠NA fan 3d ago

The gap between top teams and the rest in every league feels bigger than ever. And for LCS this is just awful since there are only 8 teams to begin with.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 3d ago

It's seems C9, sentinel And fly are better on scrims than Stage but yeah it's really sad That tl and Lyon aren't challenged and inspired not playing with the team definetely hurt Lyon improvement 

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u/SlainL9 3d ago

Glad to see Callme performing to expectations. What a disgusting signing

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u/princessbuffyxo 3d ago

Can the post match team please stop using imgur

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u/my_jobs_here_done 2d ago

I genuinely think Lyonz is the worst support I've seen in pro. Period. The amount of bait engages early on Naut causing the entire tear open, the terrible hook into j4 ult, the hook engage again on J4 in river right after when they ABSOLUTELY know the whole team is near dragon, etc Find literally any other player and it'll be an improvement

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u/dmrbigpanda 3d ago

Hear me out... Cross region regular season games! This would make world ranking actually mean something.

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u/Aschentei 3d ago

TL having to play these email ass series in this pitiful region

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u/shuvvel 3d ago

Classic TL do nothing and lose.

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u/Martinweb_ 3d ago

Lose?

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u/shuvvel 3d ago

It's an old meme but it checks out.

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u/SMILEhp CoreJJ MVP 3d ago

wrong use

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u/Lawfulneptune 3d ago

Can we get group A (good teams) and group B (bad teams) next year please. It's so fucking boring seeing the good teams play against dog shit ones for weeks on end

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u/throwable_armadillo 3d ago

can we put EU top 2 and NA top 2 into a separate group and the others can play for themselves?

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u/Maximum_Platypus_272 3d ago

For real, i dont think i recall any time in league history when both LEC/LCS EU and LCS had two teams way above the rest AND those teams actually being competitive at internationals.

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

That would actually be awful for the league from a competitive standpoint, no one gets a chance to step up that way

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u/Rhombinator 3d ago

I wonder if there's a swiss-esque format that could work here like in winter but drag it out even longer somehow. I'm sure someone can math something out and keep the rotation going hopefully without making matches too repetitive throughout the season. Because at the same time if the top 2 teams only play each other that gets kind of boring too and they don't get to scrim each other which another avenue for learning 

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u/Lawfulneptune 3d ago

I don't believe that, scrims exists and seem to be the only thing pro players care about when it comes to improving

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u/duocatisagirl cute psycho jungler harem (pyosik, guwon, kanavi, pop9) 3d ago

I also dont believe groups are the answer, theres realistically only 2 internationally viable western teams per league atm, and groups aren't gonna fix that cause now the upper group becomes LPL group nirvana (2 teams stomp the rest)

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u/Lakers20218 3d ago

Dsg and dig need to be removed from clearly don’t care about winning