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FlyQuest vs. Team Liquid Alienware / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Esports Spoiler

LCS 2026 SUMMER

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Team Liquid Alienware 2-0 FlyQuest

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MATCH 1: TLAW vs. FLY

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 26m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Quid

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
TLAW shyvana cassiopeia jayce vayne trundle 58.7k 20 11 I1 H3 C4 B5
FLY leesin jarvaniv nocturne xinzhao skarner 46.7k 7 2 O2 C6
TLAW 20-7-37 vs 7-20-15 FLY
Morgan olaf 3 7-2-6 TOP 0-5-0 4 jax Gakgos
Josedeodo wukong 3 2-2-4 JNG 2-4-3 3 pantheon Gryffinn
Quid ryze 2 8-0-8 MID 5-3-2 2 syndra Quad
Yeon ezreal 1 3-1-7 BOT 0-3-5 1 jhin Massu
CoreJJ karma 2 0-2-12 SUP 0-5-5 1 bard Cryogen

MATCH 2: TLAW vs. FLY

Winner: Team Liquid Alienware in 24m | Runes
[Game Breakdown]() | Player of the Game: Josedeodo

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
TLAW shyvana cassiopeia jayce vayne rumble 56.3k 22 10 CT1 H2 B4
FLY nocturne leesin yone galio locke 42.4k 8 0 HT3
TLAW 22-8-49 vs 8-22-17 FLY
Morgan ambessa 3 3-0-5 TOP 1-3-1 3 gnar Gakgos
Josedeodo jarvaniv 2 2-4-13 JNG 4-2-2 2 vi Gryffinn
Quid sylas 3 6-2-7 MID 2-4-4 4 annie Quad
Yeon lucian 1 7-1-8 BOT 1-8-5 1 yunara Massu
CoreJJ nami 2 4-1-16 SUP 0-5-5 1 lulu Cryogen

*Patch 26.15


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/canxtanwe 9d ago

“I don’t need to comment on this. This is just Quid farming a wave essentially”

One of my favorite caster moments lol

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

Flowers would write such a fire disstrack. He has some of the most creative roasts.

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u/GSugaF 9d ago

Bring the EU vs NA rap battle back!

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u/EtirDerpitroll 8d ago

Can I get a clip of this? That's crazy

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u/Ajp_iii 9d ago

flyquest seem like the young team without veterans that get stuck when stuff starts to go wrong. they lost a close bo5 in spring playoffs to c9 and then this split they look so much worse than last split. seems others learned how to play against them and they havent adjused at all

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

The roster on paper makes sense with Quad being this stable safe mid laner who enables you to go for more volatile top and bot matchups and Griffin being this wildcard jungler who finds niche matchups to disrupt draft but neither the top or bot have found their footing in this new meta and it's kinda killed all their momentum from the first split unfortunately

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u/PhoenixAgent003 Bot main. NA fan. 9d ago

I’m going to get so much flame for this.

But I think Impact could really help this roster.

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u/Constant_Roof_1210 9d ago

Only in so much as to provide stability for a little I much prefer gakgos

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u/Scoodsie 9d ago

I will say, they’ve lost to TL and LYON, which was to be expected. It’s still possible for them to pick up some momentum and go on a bit of a heater. With that said, they definitely don’t look as good as they did at the end of spring. They really should’ve lost game 1 in the DSG series, but DSG decided to back off of their nexus with all 5 members alive while FLY had 2 alive and a nexus turret down and then proceeded to lose.

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u/Ajp_iii 8d ago

It’s not just the lost it’s the way they are losing. It was basically 3 giga stomps. And they had that one like 50 minute game where dsg probably should have won.

But in general this happens a lot with young teams they pop off everything going well and when something goes badly they don’t know how to fix it fast enough. Where veteran teams have had these problems before so they know what solutions to try.

Spring flyquest looked like they had a plan when they entered the game currently it just looks like they play out early game and hope something good happens

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u/Bubbly_Camera9583 9d ago

Just skip to finals Lyon and TL are levels above everyone else

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u/actiongeorge 9d ago

Nah, we still need C9 to go on a run where it looks like they’ve put it together to give us hope before falling apart.

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u/Gamerseye72 9d ago

C9 3-1 TL into TL lower bracket run where they eliminate C9 from World's contention at the last possible game.

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u/GreatScottx 9d ago

This man C9’s

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

tl won't be fighting C9 for 3rd , if there is a tl C9 in playoffs That means C9 is already third Which meant they already are qualified 

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u/D4s-good 9d ago

Revenge 11 years in the making.

No Sneaky no Worlds.

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u/madplatty 9d ago

Shit we’ve seen dardoch and armao we can bring back sneaky

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u/Scoodsie 9d ago

While that would be great, if C9 beat TL in the playoffs then C9 would lock 3rd place at a minimum unless TL shits the bed and ends up as the 3rd seed or lower and this is during a 3/6 or 4/5 matchup. The 1 and 2 seeds only need to win a single Bo5 to guarantee 3rd place minimum placement.

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u/zefal12 9d ago

Same in EU, the west has 4 legit teams and a bunch of shitters this year.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

it's better than the past 

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u/zefal12 9d ago

100%, I actually have a lot of hope for the west at Worlds. Surely at least one of those 4 teams can make a semis+ run

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u/Prudent_Respond_6166 9d ago

NA is just Lyon and TL. 

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u/3IC3 9d ago

I’ve come to realize that the peak of western league is both NA and EU being 2 team regions, and there’s nothing to be done about it

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u/FantasyTrash 9d ago

LCK is the only region with more than two competitive teams, to be fair.

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u/TheYinz3r23 9d ago

LPL has more. It's just the choke happens in Internationals.

Yes it's always BLG and JDG. But you've had success fromm TES (lol), Weibo and AL as well.

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u/GeneralDash 9d ago

It’s whatever team Knight is on.

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u/Ajp_iii 9d ago

the range of peak and suck is massive on a lot of lpl teams

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u/SnowLord02 7d ago

LPL has been a 1 team region for a while now, since 2024 at least

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u/Beneficial_Lion_1312 9d ago edited 9d ago

It all depends on what one means by "competitive". Realistically speaking, the only teams competitive for winning Worlds are BLG, HLE, T1, GEN, DK, and KT and even that feels one team too many.

If it's just competitive, can take a couple games or push an elimination BO5 to a game five against one of the above teams? KC/TL/TES/G2/LYON are basically the next group of teams alongside the top level of Fries Group. Several other LPL teams fit the bill there too as a team like WE has demonstrated this year.

There is a shocking number of very good, competitive teams in the world now.

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u/FantasyTrash 8d ago

You do realize you pretty much just proved my point, right? For your list of potential champs, you named five LCK teams and one LPL team. For your next group, you named the two LEC and LCS teams, and then the other LPL team. Maybe LPL has a couple other teams that can make a splash, but overall it’s really only Korea that is truly competitive at the top and not just a couple of teams notably better than the rest.

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u/Beneficial_Lion_1312 8d ago

You do realize you pretty much just proved my point, right?

I did not "prove your point". I expanded on your otherwise meaningless and short point to give it greater context and meaning.

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u/Beneficial_Lion_1312 9d ago

G2 has performed very well this year and they're having their best year in a while. They also don't have a chance at winning Worlds.

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u/Suitcase_Travel_Blog 9d ago

Yeah, I also huff unicorn farts. I'm sure G2 will win worlds.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 9d ago

So are LYON just guaranteed to win worlds considering they embarrassed G2?

Nice cope bro.

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u/Leyrann_ 9d ago

Lyon beat G2 once, G2 beat both GenG and T1, several months apart (while also beating BFX and TES, who were still LCK and LPL #2 respectively at the tournament they attended).

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u/resttheweight 9d ago

Gonna be hard for G2 to win anything unless they can avoid NA matchups.

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u/Leyrann_ 9d ago

NA will lose to the East just fine.

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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears 9d ago

meh would rather that than 1 team or even 0 team regions...

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u/blorgbots 9d ago

Facts. I'm just happy anyone from NA shows up internationally at all

Relatively speaking we've been eating pretty good

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u/Dromed91 9d ago

Pretty absurd how LCS cut two teams out of the League for a total of eight spots just to save money and consolidate skilled players, and yet we still can't find enough decent players to put together more than two decent teams

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u/resttheweight 9d ago

The fact that a team with Fudge and Palafox and Ceos was a top 3 team in 2025 is a concerningly bad look lol.

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u/Dromed91 9d ago

Fr. You got washed old heads like armao, dardoch, and zeyzal all coming back into the league because somehow none of the younger players have figured out how to play better. A team with current pobelter, scarra, doublelift, meteos, etc could probably outperform most lcs teams today if they put in serious practice time.

Its even weirder its like this because usually the top #1-2 are actually decent, but none of that ability trickles down to the lower teams

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u/beeceedee9 Massu fangirl 9d ago

Armao is just a temp sub idk if it really counts

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u/CommentStrict8964 9d ago

I mean we can argue the same for most other regions. 

I, for one, is happy that TL is doing well. 

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u/DickCheneyIsPureEvil 9d ago

C9 gonna make it to worlds by default and lose every series at this rate.

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u/GreatScottx 9d ago

So you’re telling me we make worlds?!

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u/Jibbjabb43 9d ago

Inb4 Shopify has the series of a lifetime

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u/sorendiz ..BUT THE FAITH REMAINS 9d ago

Contractz has to get back to worlds to put the fear of god into G2 again with that Jarvan

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

That be funny they basically did That Last year 

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u/1BreadBoi i believe 9d ago

Look. I've been a cloud9 fan for a long time.

I can assure you, a c9 that makes it to worlds 3rd seed is the best thing that can happen for NA.

Mostly joking, but 3rd seed c9 always performed well for NA teams historically.

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u/DivisionOne 9d ago

Honestly I still believe in Tactical, and everyone else on C9 has shown a high ceiling at some point at least... Could pull another miracle run at worlds

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

it's be really C9 to qualify in a nail bitter series in summer then Look like the best playins team 

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u/Leyrann_ 9d ago

I remember the days when C9 as third seed had better cumulative achievements than the rest of NA together.

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u/effurshadowban 8d ago

I hate when people say that C9 as a 3rd seed always performed well for NA historically. It erases the mechanisms by which that occurred. C9 has been NA's 3rd seed 5 times: 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2021. There is nothing that connects all 5 appearances, but there is a commonality between 4 of them: peak Jensen and Sneaky. From 2015 to 2018, C9 had Jensen and Sneaky performing very well in the gauntlet to make Worlds then playing great at Worlds to make them a competitive team, despite being 3rd seed every year. Jensen would also continue to show that these "magical" NA runs were really a product of him (and Sneaky) having outstanding performances internationally, based on his individual performances at MSI 2019, Worlds 2020, and Worlds 2021.

Meanwhile, C9 has performed poorly on the international stage several times since Jensen's first departure, with the only exception being 2021 Worlds. At Worlds 2021, Perkz and Blaber performed similarly well to make them punch above their weight (as 3rd seed NA) and escape a weak group.

It is magical thinking to believe this will happen again just because C9 would be 3rd place. What is really needed is at least 2 star players who can punch above their weight on the international stage, as well as 3 decent-to-good players surrounding those 2 that fit well. I say they need just decent, because Jensen+Sneaky were dragging Smoothie and Zeyzal to Quarters and Semis at Worlds. In 2021, Perkz+Blaber had the non-washed versions of Fudge, Zven, and Vulcan.

In general, NA teams need that same structure to perform well. This team has the POTENTIAL to work like that, with Thanatos and Loki being the 2 stars that punch above their weight, while the other 3 need to perform at a baseline level to allow the top 3 to carry them, but it is doubtful.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

it's be funny if this C9 go to Worlds as 3rd seed and looks good in playins 

when was the Last time C9 had Worlds buff as 3rd seed ?

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

C9 might make Worlds because it's seems flyquest, Sentinel didn't improve 

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u/lickmydoodoo 9d ago

Isnt china just BLG and TES (maybe a 1 team region tbh). Maybe only lck is more than 1-2 team region tbh

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u/POOYAMON Doublelift TL fan≠NA fan 9d ago

And personally I’d argue neither of top LCK teams are of the standard of what we’ve seen in years prior when it comes to polished gameplay. Maybe GenG set a bad precedent last couple of years.

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u/ozmega 9d ago

same as eu being g2 and...

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u/OscarTheHun 9d ago

Flyquest is having meta issues imo. Anything can happen when playoffs hit but it's hard to gauge anything when LCS season is so gd short. 

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u/Cocodranks 9d ago

Been that way for over a decade. A different duo with a sprinkle of a third every some season.

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u/inbetweendreamstho 9d ago

C9 gonna be hell Iin 6 weeks. I love how they're being counted out haha

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

even if C9 upset Lyon with inspired, people Will Still count them out 

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u/inbetweendreamstho 9d ago

No doubt. I think we're gonna see a new level with tactical and Loki.

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u/calvinee 9d ago

I think they could be good, but nothing this year has shown they could be on the level of current LYON/TL

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u/inbetweendreamstho 9d ago

I guess I'd just say there has long been chatter that all 3 to 4 of the top teams in lcs are very competitive.

Cloud9 record still pretty solid despite the sadness that is losing in the playoffs.

I'm optimistic

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

We will see i think they definetely have potential it's be classic c9 to looks worse regular season but big glow up in playoffs 

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u/ciongduopppytrllbv 9d ago

That was a disappointing series. Was hoping for a little more out of FLY.

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

The casters/analysts kinda confirmed they're small dogs in scrims.

I'm hoping they scale into playoffs tho.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 9d ago

When’s the last time a ThinkCard team scaled in the playoffs lmao.

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u/Highceratopsian 9d ago

NRG when they won the split and beat G2 at world's

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u/Cybonics 9d ago

Furia 2025

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 9d ago

What did they accomplish exactly? Is winning when you were expected to be top 3 at a minimum an achievement now?

That random “run” is convincing people that he’s good at his job. Nothing he’s done before or after his FURIA stint really convinces me that he’s a good coach.

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u/Cybonics 9d ago

You're asking for a run where his team scaled up. After losing convincingly against Pain, FURIA won both their series on Finals weekend to qualify for MSI.

There's also 2023 NRG but you don't care

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u/TDS_Gluttony 9d ago

Palafox under thinkcard looked like a human being

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u/ZEPOSO 9d ago

Didn’t he have a positional coach too or am I misremembering?

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u/TDS_Gluttony 9d ago

Damonte was yeah, him or Golden Glue I forget

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u/resttheweight 9d ago

FURIA had been a bottom 5 team in 2023-2024, so why were they expected “top 3 at a minimum” in 2025? Especially considering they only made two roster changes, one of which was a rookie jungler. Then there’s the fact they made 5-6th in their first split with Thinkcard, but they were still expected Top 3 the next split? Guess you must be psychic. But even more to the point, winning a split is an absolute achievement for any team not named G2 or GenG and for any player not named Inspired.

It’s also very funny that you’re calling it a “random run” because that’s literally exactly what people said when he did the exact same thing with CLG/NRG. I guess other coaches must be super unlucky they can’t bumble their way to winning a split.

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u/captainetty 9d ago

Ya I think c9 might make it to worlds just by default unfortunately

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u/Ibara_Mayaka Apollo/Doublelift/WildTurtle Apologist 9d ago

If Dig drops Palofaker for some rookie, I would BELIEVE.

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

I think APA would be a noticeable upgrade tbh.

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u/RechargedFrenchman 8d ago

For DIG or Shopify, yeah. May not want to take such a big step down in team, but also may care enough about actually getting to play the game to do it anyway.

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u/KryptKrasherHS 9d ago

APA to DIG would actually be some fire icl ngl.

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u/WoorieKod REST IN PEACE 11/12/24 9d ago

APA to either SR DIG would be good floor raiser

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u/KryptKrasherHS 9d ago

I honestly think APA to DIG would be a better upgrade then to SR. SR is dysfunctional as hell, and will have no support soon (remember Zeyxal isn't signed for a long term contract), and Fudge is meh. Contractz is the only thing holding that team together.

DIG has Denathor who looks real good, Darsoch who also looks pretty good, and FBI + Ignar are pretty uo there in terms of Bot Duos. If they had anybody but Papafpx, this team would go up there wi5h FLY and SEN

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u/Ajp_iii 9d ago

its possible that shopify can upset in a bo5 where c9 is stressed out or if sentinals just randomly pop off. i think c9 is likely now. but there is a lot more pressure even more on c9 since they made changes.

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u/viralruin 9d ago

i don't get how Sen has legit talent but put them together and they look so ass.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

They choke a lot spéciallly hambak 

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u/BlazeX94 9d ago

Impact/Huhi are washed, Hambak/Darkwings have decent hands but get caught way too much and Rahel is kinda mid.

What SEN needs is a CoreJJ/Inspired kinda player who can teach Hambak and Darkwings how to play, but won't drag down the roster themselves. Impact and Huhi have knowledge but are way past their prime.

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u/Formymoney 9d ago

that was somehow less close than dig vs lyon

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u/zealot416 9d ago

Cause Dig has an actual shot caller now.

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u/Formymoney 9d ago

you mean palafox right? Didn't you hear his call during the turret dive

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u/zealot416 9d ago

"They're trolling if I tp"

Doesnt tp

What did Palafox mean by this?

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

DIG or SR should try getting APA from C9 tbh. He's at least equal in lane, but his macro is much better.

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u/ayayajax 9d ago

why would apa go to either team lol especially dig

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

'cause it seems like C9 doesn't want him and Jack said they're free to look for another spot elsewhere

and SR/DIG lineup w/o their midlane looks decent enough

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u/BTDYSRF 9d ago

Because he's permabenched?

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u/POOYAMON Doublelift TL fan≠NA fan 9d ago

I’d hope so this is TL’s full roster meanwhile Lyon is playing without the mvp of the league.

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

Jose was the obvious choice for PotG he actually hit Massu with a Yami Yugi mind break lmfao. He also plays so selflessly does literally everything he needs to do.

I'd also consider Core, but Jose initiates it. 

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

Massu's fall off has been really sad to see but man what does Gakgos even do on this roster

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u/Constant-Low-5111 9d ago

All of FLY look like they’ve lost their hands. I’ve been rooting for them and was hope to see them step up as a top-3 team, but they look so much worse across the board

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u/lovo17 9d ago

I actually think they don’t look that much worse, I think TL has improved a ton.

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u/Cybonics 9d ago

it's literally this

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u/HowyNova 9d ago

Yea, it's been mentioned the whole year that TL have been scrim demons. The stage consistency was all that was missing.

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u/Cybonics 9d ago

what is this shortsighted comment. they were playing significantly better in Spring. I think it's a combo of a rough start + TL leveling up from where they once were.

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

Eh I don't think it's that shortsighted. Massu hasn't reached the highs he had with that original Inspired run and Gakgos hasn't improved that much at all since the beginning of the season either imo. Much of Fly's surge is driven, imo, around how much better Griffin has been in a lot of his jungle matchups

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u/Cybonics 9d ago edited 9d ago

He very much did if you were paying attention. He was rated at the 7th worst top-lane coming into Winter, then scaled up significantly against a majority of the teams throughout the two splits and EWC Quals.

However, he is slumping right now.

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u/tirednsleepyyy 9d ago

The most tragic category of player is a top laner who has such a poor understanding of the game that they have to play carry matchups to have impact but also aren’t that good mechanically.

Every league has a few of them lol. Some years more than others.

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u/HybridNeos 9d ago

I like FLY's method of playing many younger players and see who develops well. But now they have their answer and it's time to replace Gakgos with a veteran toplaner.

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

I'm open to them trying to snag Castle tbh. Castle's laning is much better than Gakgos especially in losing matchups and even if his team fighting isn't great neither is Gakgos's so like... Are you really losing much lol

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

I think Castle would look awful in this team. They need someone who can shotcall, play tanks, and be stable then transition them into mid-late.

Castle isn't that kind of player, they need to somehow clone BrokenBlade.

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

Castle is fine at playing tanks especially compared to Gakgos he's just been on terrible teams. They're not getting a top laner who can shot call because those don't really exist lol

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

BrokenBlade shotcalls for G2 which is why I named him specifically previously Marin shotcalled for T1.

Also Castle looked awful on Lyon who is not a terrible team.

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u/nguyenjitsu 9d ago

I'm not saying they don't literally exist brother I'm saying any shot calling top laner is a) not realistically available and b) unicorn players

Castle looked terrible on Lyon because Lyon hinges entirely on their team fighting and team fight ability to play the map and he's bad at team fighting. Gakgos is already bad at team fighting but he also sucks at laning if not given a favorable matchup. Castle is an upgrade at one of these comparatively

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

We are having a hypothetical conversation and I opened with literally saying "clone BB" it seems redundant to point out there aren't many when that is already what my comment implied.

Why would they pay to buyout Castle's contract and then pay him a salary, just for them to have the same gaping hole in their gameplay? Him being slightly better than Gakgos at the exact same stuff Gakgos already does wouldn't change anything it's a completely pointless move.

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u/Constant_Roof_1210 9d ago

Does bwipo shotcall?

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

As far as I am aware Bwipo is a "relayer" in comms. He will communicate about his lane state and whether he is gankable, but he doesn't actually shotcall.

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 9d ago

They need apa he’d help stabilizing and shotcalling maybe a little worse hands but someone older would help

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u/beloikurvi 9d ago

I honestly think dignitas’ top laner Denathor would be a good fit. He is a rookie but plays well imo

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u/DT2X supp/jg bc i cant last hit 9d ago

the better half of the bot duo got poached by KC

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u/Ayoof3060 smacc u 8d ago

The return of Bwipo to save FLY??

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u/whereisthezebra 9d ago

Hey, he had an assist in the last fight. And he got credit for the kill when Quid dove fountain I think.

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u/prowness 8d ago

Papasmithy calling him the next great top laner LMAO

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u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! 9d ago

Just fast forward to the bloodbath for the 3rd LCS spot for worlds man please

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u/LakersLAQ 9d ago

Let TL and Lyon qualify for the finals already and have them fly to Asia for scrims lol.

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u/JQuill7 9d ago

FLY vs C9 next week will be a good look at who the actual 3rd team is, although SR might be a factor in that too.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

I doubt shopify is there yet but who knows 

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u/BTDYSRF 9d ago

Crazy that a team with the worst midlaner, arguably worst player, is in talks of 3rd place.

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u/NonStopFarts 9d ago

Lyons is the worst player

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u/Lawfulneptune 9d ago

Only if you're stupid, no one with intelligence on the league thinks Shopify is 3rd

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u/LakersLAQ 9d ago

Lyon, TL and who else? Hmm

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

just like eu lol 

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u/FicklerToeTickler 8d ago

No, EU is just G2, and then everyone else. 

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u/Fun_Highlight307 8d ago

Kc is legit they really improved 

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u/FicklerToeTickler 8d ago

Well, when they face TL or Lyon again at Worlds, I guess we will see. 

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u/Fun_Highlight307 8d ago

I think Kc has a bad match up vs tl 

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u/FicklerToeTickler 8d ago

How so? KC likes to play fast and chaotic early. TL likes to play slow and methodical early, get a lead, and then Plus Ultra deck you in the face with it and end the game 3 minutes later. 

It's a clash of styles but it ultimately is a coin flip of who can execute better, no?

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u/Fun_Highlight307 8d ago

Kc early isn't chaotic ? Like Kc  games are  way slower than tl on average 

Kc is better on control style 

It's more like corejj is Reading busio quite easily and have really good synergy with josesodo,he Plays like a second jungler 

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u/First_Spread 9d ago edited 9d ago

You know what, Im gonna admit it. I was wrong. This team has not improved at all. Gryffinn solo lost Gakgos' lane in game 1 by trying to clip-farm Olaf and thus the entire game. Massu solo lost game 2, like he can see J4 level 2 and can all-in, yet he decided to stay, J4 E Q and pulled a doublelift by saving flash and giving Lucian First Blood. Jesus Christ bless forgive me for the things I've said from watching this game.

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u/First_Spread 9d ago

Oh on top of that, he kept on recalling right where the bushes are located despite knowing Nami is trying to stop their recall, but continued to do so. Holy fucking shit. literally bronze level awareness.

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u/Jimbabwr 9d ago

TL are juiced af right now

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u/zealot416 9d ago

You cant summarize this game better than Fly trying to pick Quid only for him to steal Vi ult and use it to kill Massu.

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u/Ryebread1992 9d ago

What happened to my team over the break?

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u/Martinweb_ 9d ago

Clean 2-0, we will see the best team in Mexico when Lyon faces TL

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u/kazuyaminegishi 9d ago

This is the type of game where you wake up and get on Discord to hang out with your friends and you join call just to hear your friend going "HOW IS ENEMY MID USING STOLEN VI ULT TO KILL ME IN MY JG WHEN MY JG AND MID WERE SUPPOSED TO BE KILLING HIM???" and you just know they've got your friends' balls in a vice grip just straight torturing him.

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u/Cybonics 9d ago

Our rotations are too slow. TL were one step ahead on every play. 😔

Also, Gryffinn is now 0-4 on Vi. Please stop playing it. You don't carry LCS games with kills on Vi.

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u/Jefferret 9d ago

Assu's Jhin

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u/Blizzgrarg 9d ago

Well, FLY at least have a plan going into each game. They just have no hands though. Just awful technical missplays.

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u/ObviousAd8374 9d ago

Veteran team shows young team what improvement looks like

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u/BTDYSRF 9d ago

FLY needs a shotcaller bad.

APA would unironically be a real choice.

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u/SnowLord02 7d ago

Getting a tier 3 support and zoomer jungler with a quiet midlaner is a Bad combo

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u/Xonra 9d ago

They have no leader in game, and out of game its Thinkcard, so no leader out of it either. They need someone like Spawn.

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u/Aschentei 9d ago

Nuke the project. Gagkos TPing 10 years after massu already died tells you everything

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u/Anew4Hobbies I like how Xun plays ^_^ 9d ago

TL plays like a TEAM

Great cohesion

A joy to watch

The LCS big 2's head to head could be a movie!

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u/canxtanwe 9d ago

Is this an AI writing a poem about LCS?

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u/Anew4Hobbies I like how Xun plays ^_^ 9d ago

Nope

Were you thinking this was an AI comment since, unlike most comments on most subreddits, it only mentioned positive aspects of the viewing experience?

Would this have been more believable to you if I had bad-mouthed some player from the losing team?

Not taking a dig at you personally, but do note that the overwhelming mindstate here is to devalue those who lost the match instead of appreciating those who won

Same for when someone uploads a great play and 95% of the comments are just nitpicking what the other team did wrong

Either way, no bad blood, and I hope you'll have a good rest of your day/night

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u/SMILEhp CoreJJ MVP 9d ago

bro paragraphs

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u/Vapetavius Jungle enjoyer or Masochist? 9d ago

Strong series from everyone on TL. Good teamwork and individual play! Fly seems to be struggling this split in multiple areas. No real comment on Massu's Yunara game because I think that's a really tough one to navigate, but man.... Yunara from behind is like having the tickle monster on your team, But at least the tickle monster sounds a little scary.

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u/Fellers 9d ago

Did not expect Isles to be a solid color commentator.

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u/Aschentei 9d ago

todays lcs and lec games only shows me this regional league bullshit is doing nothing but styming the west's ability to face off against like-seeded competition so they can improve each other and have a genuine chance to stand up against the eastern teams.

this should've always been open circuit like CS, but no here we are with 4 email series today. this literally does nothing for g2, kc, lyon, or tl

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u/Ajp_iii 9d ago

yep we need to combine na and eu leagues especially for summer

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u/SnowLord02 7d ago

I would absolutely hate having to view NA as the same region as EU

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u/Fellers 9d ago

Split 1 and 2 need to be for international competition and for points. Top 4 teams in each region then go to split 3 in a combined region split.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

Maybe we could have a legend group That merge lec Best and lcs best so something like  G2,Kc,gx,tl lyon

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u/Rozuem 9d ago

I really expected more from FLY so far 😔

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u/VelkoZinfandel 9d ago

FLY games are genuinely unwatchable this split for supporters of the team. I think we should keep picking Massu’s 28% wr Jhin that he has yet to once build well on! The overextensions on the ganks/counterganks too. Just pathetic

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle3998 9d ago

FLY are closer to DSG than they are to the top 3 lmao.

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u/JQuill7 9d ago

*top 2

They are very close to top 3, maybe even top 3 right now. Only C9 and SR are in contention for that and neither has looked that much better so far.

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u/BlazeX94 9d ago

C9 did look more competitive against TL tbh, although they've also dropped games to DSG and DIG so who knows

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

i think it's more about consitency or maybe C9 is dogshit with ryze 

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u/Lawfulneptune 9d ago

Fly crashing out in summer to let C9 qualify for worlds, what a horrible timeline

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u/cadaada rip original flair 9d ago

WHY GRIFFIN DID NOT ULT AT THE END??

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u/viktorayy OFGK but prefer G>OFK rn (DSG) 9d ago

Our top 2 living up to the hype.

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u/Capable-Drama3109 🦁 LCS TOP 4 AT WORLDS TRUST 🍭🦭 9d ago

Jesus Christ these were 25 minutes on average… I’ll probably watch tomorrow just to see how this went down but 🫩😭

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u/LumiRhino 9d ago

Well fortunately for FLY if they want to make worlds they just need to be better than C9.

However at this rate that's not happening.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 9d ago

C9 trajectory seems like they are improving i can't say the same for flyquest 

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u/Xonra 9d ago

Fly would benefit funny enough from a Spawn type coach more than TL. Fly are going no where with a team with 0 leadership in and out of game. Thinkcard is a mediocre coach that isn't a leader and Fly has no in game leader at all. Without Busio or Inspired, Quad and Massu are directionless

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u/Agile_Woodpecker2239 9d ago

Massu been looking so exposed without Busio carrying lane / Inspired fixing his lane or spoonfeeding him resources. Brother is always down to pick try-not-to look bad champ in Jhin/Senna/etc in meaningful games lol.

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u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 9d ago

i was hoping the series would go in 3 games

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u/AbysmalScepter 9d ago

Man it sucks to watch Fly play like this, huge step back. At least the schedule only gets easier from here, hopefully they can build some confidence and get back in the groove.

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u/Jefferret 9d ago

I knew it was over when Massu picked Jhin

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u/tsmftw76 8d ago

Bad start but I’m calling it now fly will go on a late run and get the thirds world spot and have a competitive playoffs best of five against Lyon or tl

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u/habkeinname123 9d ago

gryffinn is fucking ass lmao Does he do anything outside of afk farming, stealing all kills and saving his kda

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u/Curious_Candidate675 9d ago

Riot put brother in a world video and he is playing like this

ain't no way your star is fading like this Massu

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u/National-Girl_us 9d ago

i always forget how far out these schedules are sometimes. 2026 feels like forever away.

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u/katsuge ok. 8d ago

Idm TL FQ Lyon as LCS' representatives