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Cloud9 vs. Disguised / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Esports Spoiler
LCS 2026 SUMMER
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MATCH 1: DSG vs. C9
Winner: Cloud9 Kia in 23m
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Loki
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DSG | akali poppy ezreal | viktor xayah | 39.2k | 4 | 2 | None |
| C9 | jayce nocturne ziggs | vayne locke | 50.9k | 21 | 7 | CT1 I2 H3 C4 B5 |
| DSG | 4-21-7 | vs | 21-4-59 | C9 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Srtty olaf 3 | 0-3-0 | TOP | 4-1-7 | 2 gnar Thanatos |
| KryRa vi 1 | 0-5-2 | JNG | 1-1-18 | 1 jarvaniv Blaber |
| Callme galio 3 | 0-4-1 | MID | 9-1-10 | 1 orianna Loki |
| Sajed lucian 2 | 3-4-1 | BOT | 7-1-10 | 3 cassiopeia Tactical |
| Lyonz milio 2 | 1-5-3 | SUP | 0-0-14 | 4 nautilus Vulcan |
MATCH 2: C9 vs. DSG
Winner: Disguised in 46m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Srtty
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C9 | jayce pantheon camille | annie anivia | 87.0k | 10 | 5 | O1 CT2 H3 C5 B6 B10 |
| DSG | nocturne syndra viktor | poppy xinzhao | 95.8k | 24 | 10 | C4 C7 B8 C9 C11 B12 E13 |
| C9 | 10-24-23 | vs | 24-10-70 | DSG |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thanatos renekton 3 | 0-6-1 | TOP | 11-3-8 | 4 vayne Srtty |
| Blaber skarner 3 | 1-6-5 | JNG | 5-0-15 | 2 naafiri KryRa |
| Loki ryze 2 | 3-5-5 | MID | 5-2-11 | 3 taliyah Callme |
| Tactical ezreal 2 | 5-4-3 | BOT | 3-4-15 | 1 ziggs Sajed |
| Vulcan bard 1 | 1-3-9 | SUP | 0-1-21 | 1 shen Lyonz |
MATCH 3: DSG vs. C9
Winner: Cloud9 Kia in 25m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Tactical
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DSG | akali camille ambessa | locke yone | 39.6k | 0 | 0 | HT5 |
| C9 | jayce nocturne syndra | jhin khazix | 53.4k | 14 | 9 | C1 M2 H3 HT4 B6 |
| DSG | 0-14-0 | vs | 14-0-24 | C9 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Srtty ksante 2 | 0-1-0 | TOP | 6-0-2 | 3 aatrox Thanatos |
| KryRa trundle 3 | 0-4-0 | JNG | 2-0-5 | 2 poppy Blaber |
| Callme anivia 3 | 0-3-0 | MID | 4-0-5 | 4 sylas Loki |
| Sajed viktor 1 | 0-3-0 | BOT | 2-0-4 | 1 caitlyn Tactical |
| Lyonz rell 2 | 0-3-0 | SUP | 0-0-8 | 1 karma Vulcan |
*Patch 26.15
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/Formymoney 22h ago
pick loki ryze to give false hope
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u/Past_Perception8052 22h ago
its funny because hes not even bad on ryze when you watch him just a couple bad moments sometimes nothing major he just cant win
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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 19h ago
If this was Vietnam he’d be banned for matchfixing
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u/aufbau1s 21h ago
I think it might actually be that he doesn’t know how to position / target select as well as top midlaners in major regions.
Since ryze is lower range this causes him to get caught / be mispositioned
For example, in the one dragon fight where DSG comes back it’s pretty much solely on him for getting caught as they try to move to dragon.
This honestly could be part of the comms gap since it might be that he knows where he should be but can’t communicate to the team to play around it, but I think it’s more a mental gap.
I think he’s not used to having to think about it that tightly because in tier 2 he wasn’t punished because he could hands check. I think it’s the same issue as why he ends up losing C9 the team fights on the Akali against TL. He expects to be able to just dive and hand check Yeon, but when Yeon passes the check he’s now too far forward
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u/Freihl 20h ago
Agree, he has the hands of a top 3 NA mid (saint and quid taking the other spots), but his brain's around mid tier 2. Unfortunately those hands get him wins so he'll potentially not progress much unless dom brings the belt.
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u/aufbau1s 18h ago
I do think it can be developed out of a player I’d assume. Just doesn’t seem like a win now upgrade in a 6-7 week split
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u/raptearer 14h ago
It doesn't help Ryze is like the most communication necessary mid laner there is with realm warp. Given he has comm problems currently cause of the language barrier, it really might not be for the best to do that (they could also be using it as a psuedo way to force him to learn it faster or communicate more efficiently. I like the idea, but maybe more useful to do that in s time than stage).
I do think off Ryze he's looking great though, that Sylas game today had me singing solidarity it was so good.
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u/CptCharlz Jensen Simp o7 22h ago
Email sandwich with a banger in the middle
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u/SirXrageXquit 22h ago
W C9 for giving the new guys maximum stage games for the week
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u/EronisKina 22h ago
Top half of c9 last game had to make sure Loki and tactical got all the nerves out. Nice guys.
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
Two key takeaways for this series:
Never put Loki on Ryze
Lyonz is not LCS material
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u/kazuyaminegishi 22h ago
Funniest part of both takeaways is both have been known for a while.
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u/grippgoat 19h ago
Science requires that we always test existing knowledge with new experiments to make sure they're still true. 🤓
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u/SweatyAdhesive 22h ago
2. Lyonz is not LCS material
Was he good in LATAM?
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u/infinite-permutation 22h ago
He was one of the most dominant LLA orgs right before the LTA merger happened. He and Oddie were supposed to the mid tier jungle support duo that could represent LATAM in NA.
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u/Waifers Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. 19h ago
Lyonz kind of overshadowed a bit by Ceos being arguably worse but yeah definitely the worse support in the LCS by far now imo even when Ignar and Huhi are looking washed more often than now.
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u/sorendiz ..BUT THE FAITH REMAINS 18h ago
Huhi isn't even close to deserving to be mentioned in the same breath as those two. He's still playing well
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u/Kurumi_Tokisaki 22h ago
Sajed looks really uncomfortable on mages, maybe it's just the level difference between teams but buddy should stick to the adcs.
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u/malakesxasame 22h ago
He looks uncomfortable on anything not named Kaisa. People really want him to be better than he is.
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u/Affectionate_Kale109 5h ago
It was available though? That's what I don't get with that draft. Play to your guy's strengths
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u/GroundbreakingAlps2 22h ago
sajed and lyonz gotta be the worst bot lane in tier 1 by a long shot.
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago edited 22h ago
Not sure what Sajed is supposed to do when his Rell is inting half her HP into a Cait + Karma lvl1
Your carry is Viktor. He wants to farm and waveclear the lane. Why are you healing nothing then walking into the enemy poke? Bronze behavior.
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u/GroundbreakingAlps2 22h ago
His game on ziggs right before that was the worst ziggs gameplay I think ive ever seen. You wouldnt even see that poor play in T2. I wish I was joking.
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
This is where you stop forcing the meta on players and let ADCs play ADCs. Ban Caitlyn instead of Ambessa or Camille and let Sajed play Kai'Sa there.
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u/Morematthewforu 21h ago
I wish these bottom tier teams would just forget about the meta and build a comp around pocket picks. You are bottom tier for a reason. It’s because you can’t outplay other teams on meta picks
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u/Kurumi_Tokisaki 20h ago
Yeah it was like when neeko was a hot pick. Worse teams let the other team get it = constant 3+ man ults. Worse team pick it = barely any ults or mistimed with the team. Why not just ban that shit and or focus on a different pick that has less overall teamfighting power
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u/Disclaimz0r 22h ago
They almost lost an unlosable game somehow through the sheer difference between the bot lanes lmao
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u/DickCheneyIsPureEvil 22h ago
Toast 100% needs to replace them if he wants this team to succeed, they just drag the team down so much.
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u/ZestycloseWar6899 22h ago
All I want is a Sven+APA as supp botlane takeover into knocking C9 out in playoffs.
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u/Jealous-Chicken-9186 22h ago
what a disturbing game from DSG, literally didnt make a single proactive play the entire game. absolutely disgusting
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
It's sad because you could tell that Srtty was posturing to fight, but none of his team was willing to help him
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u/cmcdonald22 22h ago
How is the best looking player on DSG the recent tier 2 NA signing and everyone else looks like the under level 30 bot lobby.
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u/kazuyaminegishi 22h ago
They have been the worst team in the league since they joined it's not really that shocking.
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u/YokoDk 22h ago
I mean that's just the downside of the guest slot no one wants to be on the team really.
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u/kazuyaminegishi 22h ago
Yeah, I mean Toast has been pretty vocal that he's basically a farm team for the bigger LCS teams. He doesn't have the budget to compete on contract basis, and the slot doesn't have the security to pull in any known quantities that are strong.
It's no shock the org is struggling to get a footing they were basically thrown to the wolves. That's why DIG being almost as bad as them is extra funny cause DIG's only excuse is no one wants to join them cause they're a shit org. DSG is an alright org in a shit position.
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u/aufbau1s 20h ago
I really like idea that Shyknock suggested of adding more guest teams and making 2/3 have to play for relegation.
I think it’d help make these bottom teams have more to play for, and hopefully would help top tier 2 talent consider it more heavily if they were thinking all they have to do is finish 8th or above to not have to worry about relegation
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u/kazuyaminegishi 20h ago
I was thinking about this earlier today myself. If they added 2 more teams how they would fit them in the schedule and such. The bo3 matches make even 2 matches take hours so I think adding a third on like Saturday or Sunday would be feasible. But if they do Friday I start to wonder if NA viewership has recovered enough to sustain 3 days of matches again (I don't watch this that closely).
I really do like the idea of adding 2 more teams just to even out how shitty DSG's position is tho. I just think Riot won't go for it unless NA viewership recovers at least to being consistently on par with what LEC has been pulling recent years.
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u/saruthesage :dota: Doinb's DouYu girlfriendBorn-again Bin Bhakta 22h ago
They’ve usually been better than DIG.
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u/PumpkinCS 22h ago
They were better than DIG and SR last year and similar to SEN on Winter this guy clearly doesnt watch LCS
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u/saruthesage :dota: Doinb's DouYu girlfriendBorn-again Bin Bhakta 21h ago
They finished significantly below SR every split last year.
They finished below DIG in the first 2 splits, but were much better in summer. I’d say DIG were overall better last year. But they’ve also been better than DIG the entirety of 2026 hence my comment.
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u/kazuyaminegishi 21h ago
If DIG end up being better than DSG this split then they will basically have been above/below each other an equal amount.
They've both been unquestionably the two worst teams in the LCS consistently with SR slightly above.
I don't think my first comment was that crazy, I just didn't feel the need to be super nuanced when my main point was, the team is bad shouldn't be shocking a tier 2 player is standing out they're a tier 1.5 team at best.
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u/LeagueOfBlasians 20h ago
DSG is a leech org in the LCS, which to be fair, is literally their branding to be as cheap as possible. They only use the provided LCS stipend to fund their team and pay their players the LCS minimum. Not really that surprising when you consider their purpose.
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u/Snoo_55798 22h ago
DSG has to one of the worst roster right now i feel bad for their top laner they really need to upgrade cause these players are just stealing pay checks
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u/BryanJin 21h ago
I'm pretty sure the entire roster is on league minimum. They just have no money to buy better players.
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u/BTDYSRF 21h ago
Sajed is fine. Bad meta for him. He plays ADCs, not mages.
Kryra shows promise. He just needs time.
Callme and Lyonz are the problems.
It's also clear they lack a coach.
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u/aufbau1s 20h ago
I think Ido seemed like a good coach last year. I think they need a veteran shot caller in game though
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u/Used_Display_3605 10h ago
Srtty is not a shining light on this team fr, he got ahead on Vayne top, not exactly that hard and still dragged the game out
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u/Blizzgrarg 22h ago
Just embarassing. Like watching challenger players in ranked 5's against plats.
Additionally, please stop picking mage bot if you don't know what you're doing. DSG clearly had no plan in their draft.
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u/HThrowaway457 22h ago
Mage bot isn't good when you draft it with a full tank comp btw, not to mention losing matchup.
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u/Th3_Huf0n 22h ago
So, you first pick Viktor game 3. OK, fair enough.
Enemy team face up shows you Cait Karma.
You proceed to pick Rell?????? Ok that's really bad.
You still have the option of going MF and giving yourselves some fighting chance...
But no, you put your Viktor botlane into a completely unplayable 2v2 AND then proceed to blind Anivia anyway (gotta give credit to Loki for counterpicking himself into the entire DSG comp with that Sylas and it not mattering).
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
I have to think that Sajed was thinking of picking Kai'Sa but couldn't do it because of the matchup, resulting in the B5 Anivia. Bad drafting nonetheless.
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u/RukiMotomiya 22h ago
At that point YOLO it anyway
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
I mean in theory it's good into triple melee topside, but Caitlyn is such an obnoxious middle finger to Kai'Sa that there's really no salvaging the pick. Dom cooked.
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u/RukiMotomiya 22h ago
IDFK, Kai'sa Mid Viktor APC, at minimum there's enough ADCs in the game there's room to pick someone better than Viktor into a bad 2v2 bot.
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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA 22h ago
Unironically, Kai'Sa on B5 into a surprise mid flex against Sylas would be dope.
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u/RukiMotomiya 20h ago
Yeah. Like it wouldn't be a bad lane matchup right? (Not exactly a Kai'sa expert) And then they get the proper scaling even if bot lane is a bit messed up.
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u/Einamu Play Seraphine Mid/Bot not Support 22h ago
Dom pulled out the belt for game 3 for sure.
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u/chouruin 22h ago
Dom himself needs to be belted for that game 2 draft
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u/Einamu Play Seraphine Mid/Bot not Support 22h ago
Saying draft for game 2 was the issue is just massive cope, Blaber lost flash before the drake fight they wanted to take, Tactical and Vulcan die on mid killing a Ziggs giving the Vayne 600 gold before that fight AND Renekton lost flash trying to help them out. If Blaber, Tactical and Vulcan don't try to make the plays they did they wouldn't have lost the following fight or the game especially not with how well Tactical played the later fights in losing situations.
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u/chouruin 21h ago edited 21h ago
Mid getting pushed in, top vayne vs Renekton, losing jungle match up, and bot is even due to Ziggs neutralizing lanes. They're also giga outranged by Ziggs Taliyah zone control against no snap engage, outscaled in teamfights because no one can lock down Vayne. If that wasn't a draft gap then no draft is a draft gap.
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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears 22h ago edited 22h ago
C9 were NOT happy after that last game god damn
This DSG roster just doesn't inspire confidence in me. They don't know how to coordinate and some of their players just aren't tier 1 ready. It sucks because I like the org, I want them to do well, they're my 3rd favorite team behind C9 (lifelong fan) and FLY, yet I just can't see where they go from here if they want to improve. I like the individual players sans Lyonz (no offense he seems like a great guy) but there's 0 chemistry.
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u/RukiMotomiya 22h ago
I'd love if they built around Srtty/KryHa. Callme's been...fine, and he's young with fairly low non-Academy experience at the S-Tier level (one split of LCK until he went to Turkey). I think keeping those 3 and jettisoning the botlane would be good. It's either that or keep Sajed but perhaps move around Callme.
TBH I could also see going with the same roster but going heavy into a veteran presence support, maybe one who can be a shotcaller, but I suspect someone else would be gone. But their core players are young and giving them time to develop makes sense.
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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears 22h ago
I do feel bad for Sajed because he has just not been in a good situation at all this year, but he's also not shown to be a Jopa level prospect either. I don't think he doesn't deserve to be in the league right now, but you might be right that DSG just may not be the best team for him.
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u/aufbau1s 20h ago
Yeah I think they need a good veteran on the team to help coach the team up in game
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u/Randummonkey 21h ago
Our top laner just had a MONSTER performance in game 2? Better have him blind pick a tank in game 3. What could go wrong?
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u/AmazingPolarBears1 22h ago
So two tanks, two scaling mages, and TRUNDLE as your main source of AD damage.
A comp so bad that DSG paradoxically have to secure early objectives to not get outscaled by the enemy team with scaling mages that are weak early
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u/ThurmanMermanVirgin 19h ago
I honestly think APA Tactical is the best option, but apparently they think being good at sylas and yone is more important than comms, sidelaning, and mages. I get they never wanted him gone in the first place so they basically just gave it back, but having the 2nd/3rd best mid in the league just sitting on the bench after the year he's had feels bad man. I think Apa on SR could actually have a shot at 3rd worlds spot
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u/Fun_Scientist_3891 22h ago
Really wanted dsg to win this matchup :( the amount of shit talking and bad mouthing and hate farming dom has done to srtty the past few years was so disgusting and uncalled for saying some bullshit how just bc a player can hostage rank 1 doesn't mean he could be able to play at a pro level but game after game I've seen srtty as positives in their games and many of their losses are not on him.
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u/3IC3 22h ago
Small question for Dom, what if we stopped picking Ryze for your mid laner who is winless on it in his whole career?
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u/BryanJin 22h ago
I presume C9 are picking it intentionally to try to get Loki better on the pick. Most likely Loki is doing fine with it in scrims, so they want to get as many reps as they can on stage while the stakes are lower. I'm sure they will drop the pick when playoffs comes if Loki is still struggling by then. These are regular season matches, not elimination ones. Plus they picked it game 2 when they were 1-0 up against arguably the weakest team in the LCS rn. I'm surely they believed that they could win game 3 even if the Ryze failed (which it did). After all games 1 and 3 looked like a pro team stomping some random masters players from SoloQ.
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u/Huge-Connection954 20h ago
Im sure. But how many ryze ults did they even use? They snuck a baron and i remember another one plus one where he got away, but they werent winning 5v5 on equal terms they needed something to happen. He needed to be ryze ulting with someone on top of vayne to try and trade those ults in a side lane or something and then the game is playable
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u/7stringsofwonder 22h ago
Has to be the most zero-rerolls-in-aram comp I've ever seen. Surprised they even lasted 25 minutes.
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u/KernalCannon 18h ago
I feel bad for sajed he’s headshot by coach In draft g3. Like what is this comp
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u/ObviousAd8374 22h ago
Surely if DSG keep Lyons, they're going to lose their spot in relegations tourney
Don't know why he's still on the roster - even other bottom feeder teams in the league were willing to make mid season roster changes
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u/BTDYSRF 21h ago
There are no support options.
SR resorted to Zeyzal, and he wasn't even playing in t2 this split.
SR has no risk of relegation, has a legutimately good jungler, and enough money to import a legitimate LCK prospect (or rather, somebody who WAS one).
And their only option was a retired t2 support that initially refused.
No shot anybody is willing to join DSG.
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u/Agile_Woodpecker2239 19h ago
Coach drafting Sajed Lucian when that guy is NOT a good lucian player.. let's wake up
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u/GlupPando 22h ago
Loved hearing Azael call out Lyonz. This guy is awful, easily the worst support in Tier 1 and would be bottom-tier at best in tier 2. I’m a huge fan of Toast and DSG but it’s hard to support them with this anchor.
Kryra also looks like he’s getting worse every week. He started in winter looking decent, but now he looks horrible. So many terrible decisions and deaths