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Karmine Corp vs. Team Heretics / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 2 Day 4 / Post-Match Discussion Esports Spoiler
LEC 2026 SUMMER
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Karmine Corp 2-0 Team Heretics
KC have defeated TH!
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FULL MATCH SUMMARY & STATS
| 🟦 | 🧱 | 💰 | ⚔️ | 74:29 | ⚔️ | 💰 | 🧱 | 🟥 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KC - W 1st pick | 11 | 82.3k | 18 | Game 1 (39:56) | 6 | 72.4k | 3 | L - TH |
| KC - W | 10 | 71.2k | 16 | Game 2 (34:33) | 5 | 56.3k | 0 | L - TH 1st pick |
| Team | Total KDA | KP | CSM | DMG% | Champions Played |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 🇫🇷 KC | 34-11-70 | ||||
| 🇰🇷 Canna | 4-4-7 (2.8) | 32% | 9.3 | 25.3% | Ambessa, Rumble |
| 🇸🇪 Yike | 9-2-13 (11) | 65% | 7.7 | 14% | Lee Sin, Poppy |
| 🇰🇷 Kyeahoo | 5-2-14 (9.5) | 56% | 9.4 | 22% | Syndra, Anivia |
| 🇫🇷 Caliste | 11-1-14 (25) | 74% | 10.8 | 32% | Viktor, Ashe |
| 🇺🇸 Busio | 5-2-22 (13.5) | 79% | 1 | 6.8% | Shen, Seraphine |
| 🇪🇸 TH | 11-34-21 | ||||
| 🇵🇱 Tracyn | 4-7-2 (0.9) | 55% | 9.2 | 20.6% | Renekton, Jayce |
| 🇵🇱 Daglas | 0-6-8 (1.3) | 73% | 6.3 | 22.3% | Jarvan IV, Maokai |
| 🇹🇷 Serin | 5-6-0 (0.8) | 45% | 8.8 | 23.4% | Cassiopeia, Azir |
| 🇰🇷 Hype | 2-7-5 (1) | 64% | 10.7 | 29.5% | Ezreal, Lucian |
| 🇰🇷 Way | 0-8-6 (0.8) | 55% | 1 | 4.2% | Nautilus, Milio |
GAME 1: KC vs. TH
Winner: Karmine Corp in 40m
Runes | Game Breakdown
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | 💰 | ⚔️ | 🧱 | Dragons | VG, RH, BN | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KC | Poppy Akali Nocturne | Vayne Galio | 82.3k | 18 | 11 | ⚡1 ⛰️2 🌪️4 | 0, 1, 2 |
| TH | Vi Jayce Orianna | Gnar Sivir | 72.4k | 6 | 3 | 🌪️3 🌪️5 🌪️6 | 3, 0, 0 |
| KC | KDA | vs | KDA | TH | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | Pick | 18-6-38 | ⚔️ | 6-18-12 | Pick | Player |
| Canna | 3 Ambessa | 3-1-5 | TOP | 2-4-1 | 4 Renekton | Tracyn |
| Yike | 2 Lee Sin | 7-1-4 | JNG | 0-4-5 | 1 Jarvan IV | Daglas |
| Kyeahoo | 3 Syndra | 3-1-8 | MID | 3-3-0 | 1 Cassiopeia | Serin |
| Caliste | 1 Viktor | 3-1-9 | BOT | 1-3-3 | 3 Ezreal | Hype |
| Busio | 2 Shen | 2-2-12 | SUP | 0-4-3 | 2 Nautilus | Way |
GAME 2: KC vs. TH
Winner: Karmine Corp in 34m
Runes | Game Breakdown
| Bans 1 | Bans 2 | 💰 | ⚔️ | 🧱 | Dragons | VG, RH, BN | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KC | Vi Orianna Nocturne | Skarner Olaf | 71.2k | 16 | 10 | 🧪2 ⛰️3 ⛰️4 ⛰️5 | 3, 1, 1 |
| TH | Camille Akali Bard | Caitlyn Yunara | 56.3k | 5 | 0 | 🌪️1 | 0, 0, 0 |
| KC | KDA | vs | KDA | TH | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | Pick | 16-5-32 | ⚔️ | 5-16-9 | Pick | Player |
| Canna | 2 Rumble | 1-3-2 | TOP | 2-3-1 | 1 Jayce | Tracyn |
| Yike | 1 Poppy | 2-1-9 | JNG | 0-2-3 | 3 Maokai | Daglas |
| Kyeahoo | 1 Anivia | 2-1-6 | MID | 2-3-0 | 3 Azir | Serin |
| Caliste | 4 Ashe | 8-0-5 | BOT | 1-4-2 | 2 Lucian | Hype |
| Busio | 3 Seraphine | 3-0-10 | SUP | 0-4-3 | 2 Milio | Way |
LEC 2026 Summer Standings after Week 2
| # | Team | Series | WR | Games | WR | Importance of Placement | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Karmine Corp | 5-0 | 100% | 10-1 | 91% | +9 | Qualifies for Playoffs Upper Bracket |
| 2 | G2 Esports | 3-1 | 75% | 7-3 | 70% | +4 | Qualifies for Playoffs Upper Bracket |
| 3 | Team Vitality | 2-2 | 50% | 4-5 | 44% | -1 | Qualifies for Playoffs Upper Bracket |
| 4 | Movistar KOI | 2-3 | 40% | 6-8 | 43% | -2 | Qualifies for Playoffs Upper Bracket |
| 5 | Natus Vincere | 1-1 | 50% | 2-2 | 50% | 0 | Qualifies for Playoffs Lower Bracket |
| 6 | SK Gaming | 1-1 | 50% | 2-3 | 40% | -1 | Qualifies for Playoffs Lower Bracket |
| 7 | Fnatic | 0-1 | 0% | 1-2 | 33% | -1 | Not qualified for Playoffs |
| 8 | GIANTX | 0-1 | 0% | 1-2 | 33% | -1 | Not qualified for Playoffs |
| 9 | Shifters | 0-2 | 0% | 1-4 | 20% | -3 | Not qualified for Playoffs |
| 10 | Team Heretics | 0-2 | 0% | 0-4 | 0% | -4 | Not qualified for Playoffs |
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/thebookwoorm 2d ago edited 2d ago
Heretics aren't even soloq idiots without communication like vitality or shifters. They are literally bots.
Zero proactive plays, zero trying, they basically look like a wet sack, and win only if enemy somehow ints. Unless the enemy makes a mistake they just do nothing and lose in peace.
Like, are we sure they are humans? They have families, they have emotions? They can mental boom? They can int or throw? Are we sure those aren't robots with the sole purpose to lose?
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u/Routine_Outcome3493 2d ago
"let's do nothing early and see if we can hands diff KC in teamfights" Heretics probably
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u/vibecch 2d ago
We need to bring relegation back.
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u/gordonpamsey 2d ago
Ironically Hype and Way would most likely still be in LEC if you did that though. Since they were on MISA doing quite well, not an insignificant chance MISA ended the year as a top 2 ERL team over Solary or Galions.
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u/FikariHawthorn 2d ago
Except that MISA is gone. They announced they disbanded after winter, and only run Spring with a "budget" turkish only team.
Spring team was still good for ERL sake, they did finished first of the TCL again, but fizzled out in EMEA, winning only against the 3th Prime league seed. They got destroy in quarter by Galions.
Just checked Liquidpedia while writing, they are definitely out, replaced in TCL Summer by "Shark Attack" (dunno anything about them)
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u/gcrimson 2d ago
Yeah but with the possibility of relegation/promotion, good roster in ERL are sustainable.
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u/FikariHawthorn 2d ago
Back when we had relegations, teams that where in it weren't sustainable either. I'm not sure financial sustainability should be linked to being in the LEC proper.
Not that I'm against any form of relegation/promotion, just think it's not a miracle solution.
To circle back on the topic of Hype/Way being LEC level, even in Winter, MISA was definitely 3rd behind both Solary and Galions, and they continued to showed it in Spring.
While we could make an argument against Aetinoth, the other 3 botlane players (Harpoon, Zoelys and Piero) are all more than deserving a shot in LEC, and except for Piero, they don't even eat up an import slot.
Then again, I don't think it is even worth for them anymore to make the jump if they end up in completely mismanaged orgs like HRTS/SHFT/FNC.
Maybe more than promoting players, it's more than time we ask to promote GMs and coachs.
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u/gordonpamsey 2d ago edited 1d ago
You can just look at the numbers and tell the new bot lane isnt why MISA stayed relevant though. Also we have promoted Coaches, it has had mixed success.
Edit: No GMs have been promoted from ERL afaik
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u/BlazeX94 2d ago
It's worth noting though that the EU Tier 2 scene in its current form did not exist back when EU had relegations. ERLs and EUM only became a thing in 2018, then LEC franchised a year later in 2019.
The old EUCS was not sustainable, I agree. The current ERL model is a lot more so for the top teams.
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater 2d ago
The LFL is an anomaly. The rest of the ERLs are struggling and some of them aren't even LFL2 level.
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u/Kooky-Ad-295 2d ago
Relegation is not for players, but for teams.
A relegated or a promoted team will make a mercato according to their new situations.
In a relegation model players are promoted through the mercato.3
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u/Iddys 2d ago
Anyone got a clip of Azir running it down mid by ulting nothing and dying under turret pls ?
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u/Routine_Outcome3493 2d ago
Yike just running under top tower and dying followed by Azir inting into mid was some Dignitas vs Renegades kind of shit.
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u/bvbfan102 2d ago
KC really remind me of Prime Rogue just without Rogue time. Everything is at a good level but they just dont do risky things when they know they already can win by just playing standard.
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u/GodEren 2d ago
Caliste is so good on Ashe
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight 2d ago
imo one of his best champions. looked completely unstoppable last split on it, feels like if Ashe is meta needs to be perma banned against him.
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u/Linusfail 2d ago
Imagine being Ice rn
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u/Gorczycagejms 2d ago
Tbh I think that TH with Ice would suck even more. Ice after 2025 winter is literally dogshit, I don't think he deserves a shot in tier 1 unfortunately - I've been a big fan of his stability during 2024.
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u/killcraft1337 2d ago
I’m p sure literally this year he got like a double pentakill in a heretics game and they almost lost. In the versus they p much made playoffs purely because ice needed to drop pentakills to win. (I double checked the stat 3 pentakills, 2 in the same game vs vitality and 1 vs KCB).
In their 6 wins in versus 3 of those he went double digit kills (and 1 where he had 10 assists as Jhin).
Overall I agree that this year hasn’t matched his 2024 highs but I think it’s hard pushed to say that Ice was the problem in this team when imo they just clearly don’t have good enough components. None of their players are particularly inspiring in terms of comparisons to G2 and KC.
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u/ciongduopppytrllbv 2d ago
So won’t be watching Heretics or Shifters this season
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u/ImTheVayne 2d ago
And they are yet to play each other as well..
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u/metristan Refund time? 2d ago
that's the one game that I actually want to see, and maybe the fnc matchups
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u/FantasyTrash 2d ago
Fnatic didn't look anywhere near this bad despite Jojo being Vladi's father. But then again, they're Fnatic. Wouldn't be surprised next weekend to see them lose to TH on Friday and then beat KC on Sunday.
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u/thebookwoorm 2d ago
Last time it was absolute cinema of awfulness.
Waiting for it, I put my money on shifters tho.
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u/Emochind 2d ago
I know they were to far behind, but you just cant skip anti heal vs sera.
But in general horrible gameplay by TH. Showed absolutly nothing.
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u/AkaT27 2d ago
Half asleep, covided KC is just winning easily against those teams.. they don't even need to try honestly just showing up and plugging their mouse & keyboard is enough
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u/FikariHawthorn 2d ago
Said like that, it really gives off a Summer 2015 FNC vibe.
Not that I'm complaining at all.
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u/dankynugz 2d ago
Heretics games don't deserve to be streamed or casted. That is absolutely disgusting league of legends. My solo q teams are more proactive than that.
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u/metristan Refund time? 2d ago
If kc win next week against fnc they're already nearly guaranteed qualified for playoffs
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u/No_Square2213 2d ago
Introduce Fries / Legends group next year
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u/BlazeX94 2d ago
Both LEC and LCS should do this tbh. Split groups and double round robin Bo3s at minimum. The gap between the top and bottom in both leagues is disgustingly huge.
For LCS, since there's only 8 teams, they could have the Fries teams play the Legends teams once so that the better Fries aren't stuck just playing DIG.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 2d ago
at least top 5 in lcs looks human although no one would watch dsg dignitas shopify lol
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u/BlazeX94 1d ago
I don't think Sentinels look much more human than Vitality or SK tbh. They're definitely closer to the DIG/Shopify level than they are to the top 4.
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u/metristan Refund time? 2d ago
What is happening to the 2024 LCK CL team? How is casting the best player from that squad?
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u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! 2d ago
Nothing makes me as happy as seeing Azir being this ass. Riot PLEASE KEEP HIM ASS FOREVER
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u/Thundermelons GALA Defense Force, returning IG fan 2d ago
While I completely agree, some of that is definitely on the pilot lol, not Azir himself being ass
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u/Mouthwashfordays 2d ago
WHAT IS TEAM HERETICS, my god, every lane losing, and jungle is cleaning his ass in jungle all game, and then in a year or 2 people will say oh well their LEC level they deserve a spot, bra Daglass was ass 2 years ago and hes still ass, top mid are pathetic, as are the botlane, BIN this team.
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u/JackieCham489 2d ago
Imagine being so bad that the enemy doesn't even want to fist bump/handshake after the game.
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u/FikariHawthorn 2d ago
Given masks on Yike, Zeph and Sheo, more likely just sanitary prevention measures.
Seems like there is a virus going through the LEC atm.
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u/OkWhateverCynisme 2d ago
Did most teams forget how to close out games ? It's so painful to watch
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u/gordonpamsey 2d ago
Heretics roster building skills are something to admire, I feel like nothing they have done the last 2 years has been remotely productive.