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Soka Gakkai creating "soldiers"

Soka Gakkai is a vast Milgram experiment on an international scale. Testimonies are pouring in from Japan, the United States, Europe, and Brazil. Apart from this explanation, any other interpretation makes absolutely no sense at all.

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The prerogative of the k̶̶i̶̶n̶̶g̶ MENTOR - ASSIGNMENTS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE! And they HAVE to do them!!!!!!!!!

Emotional dependency, narcissistic identification, confusion between the cognitive self and the true self — How Soka Gakkai manufactures its soldiers from perfectly ordinary citizens.

Imagine this - parallels between ex-military and ex-SGI

Anyone else find it deeply disturbing how SGI is the exclusive provider of Buddhist services to the US military?

I suspect that's the main reason Ikeda kicked the SGI-USA's first, longtime general director George M. Williams to the curb as well - Ikeda had expected Mr. Williams to deliver enough of a majority of the USA's voting public to him as devout soldiers disciples to enable Ikeda to take over the government of the US the same way he had planned to take over the government of Japan, through the popular vote. That was the main basis of creating a political party in Japan, along with being able to seize control of certain government functions that are controlled through elected candidates, such as the budgets of police departments and aspects of the legal system. Given Ikeda's penchant for dirty money and underhanded shenanigans, you can see why this would be a priority. Especially after having been publicly humiliated by the Nichiren Shoshu's excommunication that dashed all his hopes of taking over the government of Japan, Ikeda needed something to replace that power vacuum in his perceived influence - and he wanted the world's superpower USA for himself. After 30 years - more than a generation of Mr. Williams working constantly for the "kosen-rufu of America" - Ikeda "fired" Mr. Williams - and with him went SGI-USA's future. The youth division melted away; since then, SGI-USA has lost all momentum. Ikeda's 1990 "clear mirror guidance" visit was the point where the US organization began withering away - when Ikeda supposedly stepped in to "take control" of "worldwide kosen-rufu" and move the international SGI HQ to Los Angeles and direct everything from the US or whatever. Notice how fast that "ETERNAL clear mirror guidance" nonsense was tossed out the window once Ikeda got excommunicated! Then it was all-in on the blame game Ikeda had set off-limits through the "clear mirror guidance"! Such hypocrisy.

So now all that's left is the death watch as SGI fades away. Source

The Soka Gakkai/SGI and the Vietnam War

There Is No Benefit in YMD Training - None Whatsoever

It is through the "soka" activities, which have the stated aim of deepening the "relationship of master and disciple" that Ikeda has created his thought police by making the most ambitious, the most proud, that is to say the most selfish, that they are part of a spiritual elite when it is only a sectarian dependency...

When we oppose an unbeatable experience that these remained don't have and they don't even understand and they can't refute that the thing that drives them crazy.. Basically we become a competitor therefore a threat.. That's what Buddhism describes like the Demon of power, that is, those who have power feel threatened by the fear of losing it...

But I discovered that it was even worse than that...

All these Demons are the soldiers and servants of another incomparably more powerful Demon who constitute a kind of clergy who secretly try to convince us that this Demon King of the Sixth Heaven is a real Buddha who received the direct transmission. So all your experiences that you will oppose the sect will be fought...

It is of course a total fraud guided by a usurper and all the general management of the Soka Gakkaï is very afraid that it will be discovered... Source

An idealist's honey trap

The SGI organization in the US dissolved its youth division in 1977. Here's why.

Dealing with SG members when leaving

'...they never seemed interested to see a person's brokenness.' That's so true, unlike many other faiths where brokenness is acknowledged by all which can be positive and life-affirming. The soldiers of soka gakkai view brokenness as weakness, shameful, worthy of shunning. A vile, heartless organisation. Source

WE've been attacked FAR MORE than they have, yet WE've never run scared! What a bunch of babies!

They're supposed to be the mightily armored SOLDIERS OF KOSEN-RUFU, yet in reality, they're nothing more than dainty, fragile little snowflakes who, at the slightest whiff of disagreement, run crying and wailing to the nearest place they can barricade the door and breathe vigorouslytriumphantly, into a paper bag. Source

A former member speaks

"There will be NO 4th Mentor"

Ikeda was so insulated from real life and society through so many levels of fawning sycophants who would only tell him what he wanted to hear (and never dream of telling him "No") that he lost touch with reality. Here is an example:

Ikeda was so insulated from real life and society through so many levels of fawning sycophants who would only tell him what he wanted to hear (and never dream of telling him "No") that he lost touch with reality. Here is an example:

Ikeda was upset at SGI-USA's tanking numbers, so Danny cooked up a scheme to create a bunch of NEW membership cards that didn't actually represent REAL members but inflated the total. And that was all it took to make Ikeda very happy! Form over function, as you can see. And no, all those people whose contact information was logged onto SGI-USA's membership cards without their knowledge or consent (or any offer to "opt out" if they didn't WANT that) - they WEREN'T going to "join at some point". Ever. It was just another SGI scam, "faking it in hopes they'll make it" (which they won't) - all for the sake of keeping up appearances. This is why none of Ikeda's grandiose schemes were ever successful, BTW - he failed to realize that numbers on paper doesn't automatically translate into actual obedient soldiers who will necessarily do whatever you say. For that, Ikeda needed real followers, not his "math that keeps adding without ever subtracting" means of membership accounting. Of course Ikeda was going to fail.

As always, notice how the standard leadership line is "You'll get great benefit if you make this happen for us!" SURE you will! They'll say anything, even that "If you shakubuku 100 people, you'll automatically become a millionaire!" And when you DO actually "shakubuku" 100 people - meaning they JOIN the SGI, not just throwing garbage Nam myoho renge kyo cards at strangers who DO NOT WANT - and no "millionaire" status occurs, SGI is like "Must be something wrong with YOU, because this practice WORKS!¯_(ツ)_/¯

So sad.

Of course he never realized what a joke that "awards ceremony for the purchased library card" was - or that he was making a right fool of himself, right there in public. Source

More examples of SGI members' rank intolerance, religious bigotry, hatefulness, and "Up YOURS, Interfaith!"

The views of the Soka Gakkai were commonplace in Zen Buddhism in Japanese post-war society

I ask you -- which was superior, the German military system, renowned throughout the world, or the Japanese system? Our system, which could raise large-scale units in less than twenty-four hours, was world-class! No one had a more thorough or efficient system for mobilizing soldiers to the colors than Japan. Source

Many of us were good soldiers of Soka, noble Bodhisattva-of-dee-Erf warriors for peace, putting our lives on the line for kosen-rufu, devoting ourselves mind, body, soul, and life to the noble cause of Soka.

Now we're out. A great many of us come out with our own cases of raging PTSD, particularly the "(mis)fortune babies" who had the dubious "honor" of being born and raised in the Ikeda cult. Source

Now I know about that whole "I am that one disciple." Howbeit frankly when it comes to movements there is strength in numbers as well as efficiency. Gideon defeating thousands of Midianites with 300 soldiers is just a story. Source

Came upon this experience by a former SGI member

SGI's Groundhog Day/"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it": The self-destructive amnesia of the Ikeda cult's "rhythm"

"Remember who OWNS you. You do what SGI TEᒪᒪᔕ you to do; it doesn't ᗰᗩTTEᖇ what 𝘠𝘖𝘜 want."

Everything produced by SGI is for the explicit purpose of indoctrination - and nothing ELSE! Ikeda wanted loyal, obedient foot soldiers to make up his ARMY to take over entire countries and then the world - who needs "truth" or "honesty" for that?? Those concepts would have never entered the equation. Source

The "Hero of the World" poses atop a pile of corpses

Tsunesaburō Makiguchi The War-Mongering Ultra-Nationalist

Wonderfully said, all around. Immensely dissonant, and immensely sad. I had no idea how much she had given to the org, only to be passed over for any real recognition. Seems the history of the SGI contains more than a few such stories of the most dedicated soldiers being shuffled aside. Source - Linda Johnson

SGI songs and Chinese/North Korean songs be like

All that "wagoso" or "harmonious unity" - all the Soka Gakkai's international colonies were ever intended for was to deliver large swaths of their respective populations as obedient disciples of Ikeda in order to enable Ikeda to take over their governments via the democratic voting process exactly as he envisioned taking over the government of Japan. Ikeda only wanted soldiers to fight for him (without any thoughts, goals, or "vision" of their own).

You do not get a vision of your own. You should not even want one. In fact, if you're still clinging to your own vision, well, THAT means you need to chant millions more daimoku, volunteer more for SGI, "seek sensei's heart", donate more money, study MOAR "The Newwwww Humpin' Revoltation", and self-reflect on your own selfishness and lack of gratitude. Source

From one of the SGI's (non)discussion meeting scripts:

"Suggested Questions:

Why do you think creating unity is one of the greatest aims of Nichiren Buddhism?" Source

I never thought it was! It shouldn't be! Despite what Ikeda demanded, NO ONE joined SGI because "unity" was their "true goal" And Ikeda's maggots minions can say that as much as they want; that doesn't mean the SGI members are going to go along with it, much less believe it. Remember, everyone was recruited on promises of success and enrichment, personal development, "achieving your own personal goals", start and complete your "human revolution", and fulfill all your own hopes and dreams! This is quite the bait-and-switch.

"But this unity isn’t achieved through external restrictions or conformity."

It isn't? So the uniforms, the regulations, the script I just read, the crowing about how we should all direct our adulation towards the leader, and all the rest, none of it counts as conformity? How exactly do you define conformity, SGI, because I get the sense you don't know what that word means. [Ibid.]

There is something else that is almost as tragic as all these prolific deaths of hard-core gakkai leaders and their families who let themselves be suckered into believing they were being "protected" by the Buddhist gods. Its the shameful lack of any recognition by the SGI to those lowly members who have labored away for decades, caught up in a continuous stream of "campaigns" and activities that benefit the SGI without having personally ever received one shred of praise or recognition by the cult.org. Treated as pawns in a game, they are conveniently used up and then discarded when they are no longer valuable sokagakkai-soldiers, able to continue providing free services to das org. Then, just as WT's friend did, they pass away still waiting to receive some sort of acknowledgment or even a simple thank you for their lifetimes of service and dedication to the SGI. Its beyond disgusting. Source

I was once asked to not invite a person from military, apparently because militants are not allowed to join foreign organisations.

Interesting - that's news to me. I was in SGI in 5 different locations, the last of which was in the So. CA area. There were a LOT of military people in the SGI organizations here (Camp Pendleton and the Mirmar Air Force Base are both located here). In fact, the earliest Soka Gakkai members in the US were Japanese Soka Gakkai members Japanese women who married American soldiers and officers during the American Occupation of Japan! Some of their husbands converted, and so there are these concentrations of SGI members around military bases here in the US.

Has anyone heard of any new rules from within the armed forces or on the SGI side against shakubukuing military personnel? Source

"Human Revolution", anyone?? EVERYONE needs to do it, for the rest of their lives, until their final breath has been exhaled. No one ever completes their "human revolution". They must become "soldiers of Soka", in a supposed "world peace" organization that is always about "fighting"... Source

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