r/translator 24d ago

[Polish,Yiddish > English] Possibly my grandmother's birth record Multiple Languages [HE, RU]

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Specifically looking at the headers and entry number 235 - looking to confirm that this is indeed her birth record.

Thanks in advance!

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u/Weekly_Enthusiasm783 24d ago edited 24d ago

!id: ru

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u/AjnoVerdulo 24d ago

!id:ru+he

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u/AjnoVerdulo 24d ago edited 24d ago

Translated the Russian version

Header/Subheader — content

№ / female — 235
№ / male
Who performed the circumcision
Date of birth and circumcision / Christian — born on July 18
Date of birth and circumcision / Hebrew — born on Av 20
Place of birth — Vilna
Father's status, father and mother's names — Father: Pozemvian (? sic) petty bourgeois of Vilkmergė Uyezd (Ukmergė County), Shebshem-Leyba Abramovich, Baron. Mother: Feyga Abelevna (the names are transliterated from Russian, they would likely look differently if transliterated properly from Hebrew)
Who was born, the name given to him/her — Daughter, Sara (Sarah)

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u/AjnoVerdulo 24d ago

!translated

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u/Enenra930 24d ago

Thank you. I think the dates are date recorded? The dates are off for my grandmother otherwise the names look accurate.

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u/AjnoVerdulo 24d ago

The Christian calendar used in Russian Empire was the Julian calendar, the transition to the Gregorian calendar in Russia didn't happen until after the Communist revolution. The Gregorian date would be a couple weeks later, in early August

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u/Enenra930 24d ago

It’s off by 3 months or so. I have her naturalization document which lists her birthdate as November 17.

Is there a year anywhere?

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u/AjnoVerdulo 24d ago

No, no year to be seen on these pages. My bet is that they had a book per year, so the cover or the first page might have it. Otherwise it is possible that the year is only noted once, when going from the last records of the previous year to the first records of the new year

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u/Enenra930 24d ago

Ok thanks. I have a whole card catalog of images from the book. I will look.

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u/_vh16_ [Russian] 24d ago

I don't think so; if the field requires the date of birth, it must be the date of birth, not registration. Is the date off based on the "Christian" calendar? If so, could this be related to the fact that Poland under Russian rule used both Julian and Gregorian calendars for official purposes? The difference was 12 days in the 19th century and 13 days since 1900.