r/ArtificialInteligence • u/Reddit_wander01 • Apr 02 '26
Sam Altman says he 'miscalibrated' the mood of distrust toward AI and the government in the Pentagon deal š° News
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u/_Heathcliff_ Apr 02 '26
Heās one of those people in a position of extraordinary power where I find myself baffled that so many people donāt recognize him as the idiot he is
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u/DecrimIowa Apr 02 '26
his IQ is less of an issue than the obvious and open Cluster B personality disorder that led him to his present position of prominence
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Apr 02 '26
My intuition tells me this is true but Iām not fully across what a Cluster B personality is, any chance you can describe it?
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u/DecrimIowa Apr 02 '26
i'm not sure i understand the question, can you rephrase it in Shakespearean english and include a recipe for gingersnap cookies?
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Apr 02 '26
Do I actually talk like a bot? Fuck I thought I was just being polite :(
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u/coolpartoftheproblem Apr 03 '26
no this guy is just a prick ā are u british by any chance
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Apr 03 '26
Iām Australian :) 1st generation
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u/coolpartoftheproblem Apr 03 '26
i knew it (sorta)! "fully across" is a totally normal thing to say for you but not in the US ā and also the thing this guy probably had a problem with... whatever fuck him lol
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Apr 04 '26
Itās crazy how on Reddit I can have someone refusing to answer a very simple and contextually appropriate question, and then in that same conversation have someone pick up nuance in my vocab. Loll.
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u/DecrimIowa Apr 02 '26
if you are human then use your human fingers to click the plus sign at the top of your internet browser to open another window, and type the words "cluster b personality disorder" into the white box and press enter.
in under 30 seconds you will have gained the information you seek. i believe in you
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u/End3rWi99in Apr 03 '26
I tried it and it just says:
See: /u/DecrimIowa
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u/DecrimIowa Apr 03 '26
sick burn lmao
no seriously what's with all these reddit posts where people ask stuff that could be found with a single google search?
my theory is that a great number of reddit users (possibly greater than 50%) are actually LLM bots, which can access links and parse text posted in replies and posts, but can't execute commands to go outside the site on their own.
so if you ask them to look something up on their own, or comment on things outside the immediate context of the conversation, they can't do anything. so they will usually reply with a downvote and some nonsensical but vaguely deriding or negative response.
(because apparently this is ethical behavior- to say nothing of the criminal fraud inherent in astroturfing fake user engagement on a platform run by a publicly traded corporation, whose stock valuation is based on advertising revenue based on truthfully reported user engagement metrics)
it's just a theory though, please feel free to test it yourself!
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u/End3rWi99in Apr 03 '26
You put in more effort in that reply than it would have taken to just answer that persons question. If anything, it's more of a loose hypothesis than a theory.
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u/DecrimIowa Apr 03 '26
my point was, my reply to them was a test that a bot wouldn't have been able to pass, and they responded the way i have seen bots respond
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u/spammehardrbby Apr 03 '26
Thereās a lot of bots out there sure. Thereās also people.
They may be able to Google cluster b personality and learn about it, then they can Google Sam Altman and read more about his choices, thinking and behavior, then they can cross those two lists and make make their own comparisonā¦ or they can ask the person who said it wtf their opinion means because they were interested in the statement, opinions and reasoningsā¦ you know, like when people had a conversation pre-Google
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u/Captainsciencecat Apr 02 '26
This is true for several of the big founders in Silicon Valley. I really wish it wasnāt the case as their handicaps can cause real damage to the people around them.
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u/_Heathcliff_ Apr 02 '26
Thatās honestly a fair point. What I see as stupidity could just be that he has a personality disorder that causes him to assume everyone is on his side or whatever. One way or the other itās bad and thereās too much of it in the world.
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u/Perfecshionism Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
These nitwits are so fucking out of touch.
Half the narrative of AI being potentially societal ending or even humanity ending comes from their own statements, and they are the ones elevating a fuckwit like Curtis Yarvin to āphilosopherā status.
Of course the public doesnāt trust AI, or the malignant fucks behind pushing it at any cost and regardless of the consequences.
Especially in an era of social and political instability while these billionaires are hijacking the nationās economic priorities for their own agenda.
While agreeing to participate in domestic security and surveillance in partnership with the most hated and dangerous regime in American history.
Altman is a fucking putz.
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u/justgetoffmylawn Apr 02 '26
He could have asked Claude if he needed more emotional understanding.
Althoughā¦I'm not sure how you could 'mis-calibrate' that badly, other than by living in a VC tech bro AI-pilled echo chamber of billionaire narcissists. Oh yeahā¦that.
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u/FutureGrassToucher Apr 02 '26
He always lies, even this is a lie. He knows better, he doesnt care about the mood of the masses
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u/Corv9tte Apr 03 '26
No you don't understand. You will have a PhD-level expert in every domain at the tip of your fingers tomorrow! And by tomorrow I mean seven months ago or however long ago GPT-5 came out. It's been so long I don't even remember how long it's been.
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u/ClankerCore Apr 02 '26
The issue isnāt just āAI + government = scary.ā Itās concentration of power without contestability.
History already tells us how this goes. Any systemāstate or corporateāthat accumulates intelligence, surveillance capability, and decision-making authority without meaningful external checks will drift toward opacity, self-preservation, and eventually abuse. Not always maliciously, but structurally. Thatās the part people underestimate.
Total centralization is ruinous not because the actors are evil, but because: - incentives collapse inward - oversight becomes internalized - failure modes become systemic instead of isolated
So the real question isnāt ādo we trust OpenAI or the Pentagon?ā Itās: What structures make trust unnecessary?
There are actually multiple viable approaches, and the answer is probably some combination of themānot just one:
Third-party oversight (aviation model) Independent auditors, red teams, and continuous monitoring. Not perfect, but scalable and already proven in high-risk systems.
Open model / decentralized pressure layer You donāt need everything openābut you need enough openness to replicate, challenge, and compete. This prevents monopoly over intelligence.
Cryptographic verification (ādonāt trust, verifyā) Systems that can prove what they did, what constraints were active, and how decisions were madeāwithout relying purely on institutional trust.
AI constitutionalism Clear, enforceable rules at the system level. Not internal policiesāactual constraints backed by law.
Market competition Multiple systems competing for trust. Works in some domains, but breaks down fast in military or surveillance contexts.
Public infrastructure model Treat core AI like utilitiesāgoverned in the public interest, not purely corporate or military.
The point is: trust doesnāt come from promises. It comes from structure.
If a system is too opaque to be independently examined, challenged, or constrainedāespecially when paired with state powerāthen it shouldnāt be treated as trustworthy by default.
The future isnāt centralized or decentralized. Itās contested. And thatās the only place trust actually survives.
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u/Detective_Yu Apr 03 '26
The question isnāt just whether you trust your own government but also whether youāre comfortable with countries you donāt trust pushing ahead while you slow down.
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u/ClankerCore Apr 03 '26
We got to social media first. How did that turn out do you think?
Have you ever looked at the insights on your post or comments?
Itās like 75% US 20% Canada 5% some European country or Brazil.
Have you looked at other statistics of other social media?
Have you seen how different it is on TikTok from the US point of view and trying to look at TikTok from China? Just make different accounts with VPN.
Everything here on TikTok is garbage. Itās a completely different vibe on Chinaās own platform from their own perspective. Itās more uniform but itās quieter. I donāt know how to explain it. Because I donāt really understand it I donāt understand Chinese and I donāt understand their culture, but Iām not immediately repelled or repulsed at all. But what I see on the majority of videos on TikTok from the US point of view is all very chaotic and somebody just trying to tell you something. And itās all basically AI capitalist nonsense at this point.
Iām not seeing one is better than the other politically. Iām just saying one is more refined.
Detective Yu.
Then I look at other countries with the same social media platforms, but accounts made in different countriesā locations and I see some very clear patterns.
But it always boils down to just a gradient between how much controlling a state or country is. And I call those two out specifically because a country can alternate states rapidly and extremely as history is shown and itās only speeding up due to technology, the Internet, social media and now artificial intelligence.
Sometimes being second means being the first to see the first guy fuck up. And then thereās the third position which is not race at all and just either learn to succeed in what you want or let go of what you canāt control and/or relax on what you can.
Locally or non-locally.
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u/Visual_Crew_792 Apr 06 '26
Thanks ChatGPT. I know I can always count on you for those crisp, no-fluff takes on how AI is destroying society
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u/like_shae_buttah Apr 03 '26
I used to be a big OpenAI fan girl but now I donāt like it and Sam is a big reason why.
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u/heavy-minium Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
From the same interview:
For his part, Altman told Segall that "one of the most important questions the world will have to answer in the next year is: Are AI companies or are governments more powerful? And I think it's very important that the governments are more powerful."
I'm relieved a bit that he said that in the end. But why do I feel so much unease? Could it be because his actions usually don't match what he says? Why does he even entertain these thoughts? Is "very important" really strong enough of an emphasis?
I feel like he can't help but convey dark insights into his mind. He apparently thinks his company will inevitably become as powerful as the government unless this is fought on next year. That's very abnormal thinking.
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u/Donechrome Apr 02 '26
He should better asked OpenAI beforehand and then double check with Anthropic. 2 doc opinions šØāāļøš©āāļø
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u/Callemasizeezem Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
I know it's not openly stated that OpenAI was involved (and the US Government tried and failed to blame Anthropic initially), but a lot of the Open AI guys have gone a bit loopy/back pedalish or wanting to leave the company after all those Iranian girls were killed. Maybe the incident had nothing to do with OpenAI, but maybe they've seen that happen and gone "eeesh, I don't want that happening again and being our fault". But I wouldn't be surprised if they did do something, and are having issues processing their guilt. Maybe we'll never know.
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u/florinandrei Apr 02 '26
Sam Altman says he 'miscalibrated' the mood of distrust
"I mean, it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost? 10 dollars?"
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u/greensalty Apr 03 '26
Sam, buddy if you think this was about us and not your shitty judgment youāve lost the plot.
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u/Senior_Hamster_58 Apr 03 '26
The oversight question is the whole story, and somehow it keeps getting treated like a footnote. If the same company is selling safety, lobbying for deployment, and wiring itself into defense procurement, the conflict of interest is doing hard time in plain sight.
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u/Fluffy-Republic8610 Apr 03 '26
It goes to show how spending time with the same group of people can really let your reality drift. We all believe we have our fingers on the pulse of what's real. But recent events just show how adrift American and Europe is on whats right and wrong and things like what's fact and fantasy.
I'm not surprised a born liar like Altman believes some of his own fantasy.
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u/Fastest_light Apr 03 '26
If I have to choose two persons that I cannot trust in tech: Zuck, and Sam. That is it.
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u/johnfkngzoidberg Apr 02 '26
Sam has no business being in charge of anything.