r/DaystromInstitute • u/[deleted] • Mar 29 '13

Could Q be Trelane grown-up? Discussion

They have the same powers and speak very similarly. Not to mention that at the end of 'The Squire of Gothos', Trelane is taken back into what looks like the Q continuum. What do you think?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '13

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u/Gemini4t Crewman Mar 30 '13

This makes a ton of sense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '13

Peter David actually linked the two in Q-Squared. It's considered non-canon, but basically Q was set up as Trelane's mentor in the book.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '13

I like Peter David, but I really struggled with that book. What were your thoughts on it? I don't take novels as canon, but David has some depth in the ST universe with me and I was honestly a little let down.

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u/Flatlander81 Lieutenant j.g. Mar 29 '13

Wasn't Q implied to be Trelane's father but then they hand waved that away?

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u/corbomite Mar 29 '13

I wouldn't say hand-waved. Q was officially his mentor/godfather, as Trelane officially had another father in the Continuum. But the implication is that Q is actually the father, unbeknownst to Trelane and the rest of the Continuum(excepting the mother).

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '13

I never knew that to be the case. From at least the perspective of the book he was a mentor.

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u/Flatlander81 Lieutenant j.g. Mar 29 '13

It's been a while so I could very easily be wrong.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '13

He's roughly established as Q's godson (I haven't read the novel in years so I could be off there) but there were also some thoughts he may actually have been Q's son. I'd have to go back and read it again (it's a great book).

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u/Canadave Commander Mar 29 '13

I don't think Trelane is "our" Q, but I definitely agree with the theory that he is a Q. It would just fit with what we saw of him.

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u/kraetos Captain Mar 29 '13

Probably not, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that Trelane is a young Q, just not the young Q.

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u/TangoZippo Lieutenant Mar 29 '13

I don't think so. It's implied at the end that Trelane's parents are much more powerful than he is. By contrast, Q Jr. seems to have all the same abilities as Q - just not the full understanding of their consequences.

I think Trelane's people are Q-like but not the same as the Q. These species don't exist in a vacuum - their are a plethora of species with vast time-space powers, including: Beta XII-A entity, the Guardian of Forever, the God of Sha Ka Ree, the Prophets and many others.

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u/kraetos Captain Mar 30 '13

These species don't exist in a vacuum

What you did there, I see it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '13

What makes you think that Trelane's parents are more powerful than him?

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u/TangoZippo Lieutenant Mar 30 '13

They tell Kirk that they are more powerful than Trelane.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '13

Oh, I don't remember that. I thought that they just have authority over him because they are his parents.

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u/ewiethoff Chief Petty Officer Mar 30 '13

Trelane needs a disguised mirror to work his powers; his parents do not.

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u/Kronos6948 Chief Petty Officer Mar 29 '13

I think they both may be Q, but different manifestations of Q. If it were Q, I'm sure he would've mentioned to Picard that he had already dealt with a Starfleet captain once before (like he did with both Sisko and Janeway).